From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: "Frank Schäfer" <fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com>
Cc: Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] em28xx: give up GPIO register tracking/caching
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:01:27 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130415200127.3467a003@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <516C2A50.3080409@googlemail.com>
Em Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:26:56 +0200
Frank Schäfer <fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com> escreveu:
> Am 15.04.2013 14:51, schrieb Mauro Carvalho Chehab:
> > Em Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:35:05 +0200
> > Frank Schäfer <fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com> escreveu:
> >
> >> Am 13.04.2013 20:08, schrieb Mauro Carvalho Chehab:
> >>> Em Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:46:20 +0200
> >>> Frank Schäfer <fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>>> Am 13.04.2013 19:04, schrieb Mauro Carvalho Chehab:
> >>>>> Em Sat, 13 Apr 2013 17:33:28 +0200
> >>>>> Frank Schäfer <fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com> escreveu:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 13.04.2013 16:41, schrieb Mauro Carvalho Chehab:
> >>>>>>> Em Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:48:39 +0200
> >>>>>>> Frank Schäfer <fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com> escreveu:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The GPIO register tracking/caching code is partially broken, because newer
> >>>>>>>> devices provide more than one GPIO register and some of them are even using
> >>>>>>>> separate registers for read and write access.
> >>>>>>>> Making it work would be too complicated.
> >>>>>>>> It is also used nowhere and doesn't make sense in cases where input lines are
> >>>>>>>> connected to buttons etc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Frank Schäfer <fschaefer.oss@googlemail.com>
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> drivers/media/usb/em28xx/em28xx-cards.c | 12 ------------
> >>>>>>>> drivers/media/usb/em28xx/em28xx-core.c | 27 ++-------------------------
> >>>>>>>> drivers/media/usb/em28xx/em28xx.h | 6 ------
> >>>>>>>> 3 Dateien geändert, 2 Zeilen hinzugefügt(+), 43 Zeilen entfernt(-)
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> @@ -231,14 +215,7 @@ int em28xx_write_reg_bits(struct em28xx *dev, u16 reg, u8 val,
> >>>>>>>> int oldval;
> >>>>>>>> u8 newval;
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - /* Uses cache for gpo/gpio registers */
> >>>>>>>> - if (reg == dev->reg_gpo_num)
> >>>>>>>> - oldval = dev->reg_gpo;
> >>>>>>>> - else if (reg == dev->reg_gpio_num)
> >>>>>>>> - oldval = dev->reg_gpio;
> >>>>>>>> - else
> >>>>>>>> - oldval = em28xx_read_reg(dev, reg);
> >>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>> + oldval = em28xx_read_reg(dev, reg);
> >>>>>>>> if (oldval < 0)
> >>>>>>>> return oldval;
> >>>>>>> That's plain wrong, as it will break GPIO input.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> With GPIO, you can write either 0 or 1 to a GPIO output port. So, your
> >>>>>>> code works for output ports.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> However, an input port requires an specific value (either 1 or 0 depending
> >>>>>>> on the GPIO circuitry). If the wrong value is written there, the input port
> >>>>>>> will stop working.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So, you can't simply read a value from a GPIO input and write it. You need
> >>>>>>> to shadow the GPIO write values instead.
> >>>>>> I don't understand what you mean.
> >>>>>> Why can I not read the value of a GPIO input and write it ?
> >>>>> Because, depending on the value you write, it can transform the input into an
> >>>>> output port.
> >>>> I don't get it.
> >>>> We always write to the GPIO register. That's why these functions are
> >>>> called em28xx_write_* ;)
> >>>> Whether the write operation is sane or not (e.g. because it modifies the
> >>>> bit corresponding to an input line) is not subject of these functions.
> >>> Writing is sane: GPIO input lines requires writing as well, in order to
> >>> set it to either pull-up or pull-down mode (not sure if em28xx supports
> >>> both ways).
> >>>
> >>> So, the driver needs to know if it will write there a 0 or 1, and this is part
> >>> of its GPIO configuration.
> >>>
> >>> Let's assume that, on a certain device, you need to write "1" to enable that
> >>> input.
> >>>
> >>> A read I/O to that port can return either 0 or 1.
> >>>
> >>> Giving an hypothetical example, please assume this code:
> >>>
> >>> static int write_gpio_bits(u32 out, u32 mask)
> >>> {
> >>> u32 gpio = (read_gpio_ports() & ~mask) | (out & mask);
> >>> write_gpio_ports(gpio);
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>> /* Use bit 1 as input GPIO */
> >>> write_gpio_bits(1, 1);
> >>>
> >>> /* send a reset via bit 2 GPIO */
> >>> write_gpio_bits(2, 2);
> >>> write_gpio_bits(0, 2);
> >>> write_gpio_bits(2, 2);
> >>>
> >>> If, at the time the above code runs, the input bit 1 is at "0" state,
> >>> the subsequent calls will disable the input.
> >>>
> >>> If, instead, only the write operations are cached like:
> >>>
> >>> static int write_gpio_bits(u32 out, u32 mask)
> >>> {
> >>> static u32 shadow_cache;
> >>>
> >>> shadow_cache = (shadow_cache & ~mask) | (out & mask);
> >>> write_gpio_ports(gpio);
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> there's no such risk, as it will keep using "1" for the input bit.
> >> Hmm... ok, now I understand what you mean.
> >> Are you sure the Empia chips are really working this way ?
> > Yes. It uses a pretty standard GPIO mechanism at register 0x08.
>
> Ok, will try to find out how those 0x80...0x87 GPIO registers are working.
Ok.
>
> > I'm not so sure about the "GPO" register 0x04,
>
> Well, we don't need caching for output lines, just for input lines.
You understood me wrong: I mean that I'm not sure if register 0x04 is
only for output pins, or if then can also be used for input.
In doubt, better to cache.
> > but using a shadow for it as
> > well won't hurt, and will reduce a little bit the USB bus traffic.
>
> Sure, but the problem is that caching is getting complicated with the
> newer devices.
> The em2765 in the VAD Laplace webcam for example uses registers
> 0x80/0x84, 0x81/0x85, 0x83/0x87 and also at least register 0x08 for
> GPIO. I don't not about about reg 0x04.
> And its seems some bits of reg 0x0C are used for GPIO, too (current
> snapshot button support uses bit 6).
> Have fun. :(
If GPIOLIB solves it on a clean way, then we have a reason to move it.
Otherwise, we'll need to cache all those registers, and reg 0x0C GPIO
bits.
> >> I checked the em25xx datasheet (excerpt) and it talks about separate
> >> registers for GPIO configuration (unfortunately without explaining their
> >> function in detail).
> > Interesting. There are several old designs (bttv, saa7134,...) that uses
> > a separate register for defining the input and the output pins.
>
> IMHO separate registers are the better design.
It is a safer design, but it is harder to reverse engineer them.
See the wiki page that explains it on bt848:
http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/GPIO_pins
Even experienced people sometimes do bad GPIO settings.
Using just one register is a way easier.
> >> I going to do some tests with the Laplace webcam, so far it seems to be
> >> working fine without this caching stuff.
> >> But the reverse-engineering possibilities are quite limited, so someone
> >> with a detailed datasheet should really look this up.
> > Well, that will affect only devices with input pins connected.
> > If you test on a hardware without it, you won't notice any difference
> > at all.
>
> The Laplace webcam has three buttons assigned to regs 0x80/0x84 and
> 0x81/0x85.
> They are inverted (0=pressed, 1=unpressed), which could be the reason
> why I didn't notice any problems without caching.
It seems it uses a pull-up resistor on open-drain mode. That's the most
common way to do GPIO.
> I don't have any other devices with buttons for testing.
>
> Regards,
> Frank
>
> > Cheers,
> > Mauro
>
--
Cheers,
Mauro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-15 23:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-13 9:48 [PATCH 0/3] em28xx: clean up end extend the GPIO port handling Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 9:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] em28xx: give up GPIO register tracking/caching Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 14:41 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-04-13 15:33 ` Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 17:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-04-13 17:46 ` Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 18:08 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-04-14 20:35 ` Frank Schäfer
2013-04-15 12:51 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-04-15 14:11 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-04-15 16:26 ` Frank Schäfer
2013-04-15 23:01 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2013-04-23 16:58 ` Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 18:19 ` Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 18:41 ` Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 9:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] em28xx: add register defines for em25xx/em276x/7x/8x GPIO registers Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 9:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] em28xx: add helper function for handling the GPIO registers of newer devices Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 13:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] em28xx: clean up end extend the GPIO port handling Antti Palosaari
2013-04-13 14:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-04-13 14:37 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-04-14 1:32 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-04-14 19:32 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-04-15 14:40 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-04-13 15:30 ` Frank Schäfer
2013-04-13 15:34 ` Devin Heitmueller
2013-04-13 16:21 ` Antti Palosaari
2013-04-13 16:54 ` Devin Heitmueller
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