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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <m.chehab@samsung.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com,
	s.nawrocki@samsung.com, ismael.luceno@corp.bluecherry.net,
	pete@sensoray.com, sakari.ailus@iki.fi,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [REVIEWv3 PATCH 04/35] videodev2.h: add initial support for complex controls.
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:48:10 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140311204810.29edb0f8@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <531F70BE.5060307@xs4all.nl>

Em Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:23:26 +0100
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> escreveu:

> Hi Mauro,
> 
> On 03/11/2014 08:34 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:57:19 +0100
> > Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> escreveu:
> > 
> >> From: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
> >>
> >> Complex controls are controls that can be used for compound and array
> >> types. This allows for more complex data structures to be used with the
> >> control framework.
> >>
> >> Such controls always have the V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_HIDDEN flag set. Note that
> >> 'simple' controls can also set that flag.
> >>
> >> The existing V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_NEXT_CTRL flag will only enumerate controls
> >> that do not have the HIDDEN flag, so a new V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_NEXT_HIDDEN flag
> >> is added to enumerate hidden controls. Set both flags to enumerate any
> >> controls (hidden or not).
> >>
> >> Complex control types will start at V4L2_CTRL_COMPLEX_TYPES. In addition, any
> >> control that uses the new 'p' field or the existing 'string' field will have
> >> flag V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_IS_PTR set.
> >>
> >> While not strictly necessary, adding that flag makes life for applications
> >> a lot simpler. If the flag is not set, then the control value is set
> >> through the value or value64 fields of struct v4l2_ext_control, otherwise
> >> a pointer points to the value.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
> >> Reviewed-by: Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>
> >> ---
> >>  include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h | 11 +++++++++--
> >>  1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h b/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> >> index 6ae7bbe..4d7782a 100644
> >> --- a/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> >> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h
> >> @@ -1228,6 +1228,7 @@ struct v4l2_ext_control {
> >>  		__s32 value;
> >>  		__s64 value64;
> >>  		char *string;
> >> +		void *p;
> > 
> > Hmm... don't we have already "string" for pointers? Also, calling it
> > as "p" inside an userspace api doesn't seem to nice ("ptr" would be
> > better).
> > 
> > Btw, you likely already noticed the mess, as, when you added 
> > this email's comment, you said that complex controls could
> > either use "p" or "string".
> > 
> > Nack. It should just use "string". Let's not add even more complexity
> > to this "complex" controls.
> 
> It is really, really weird to refer to a matrix type or struct type
> through a 'string'. Also, the type of 'string' is a char pointer
> which is totally wrong unless the type is really a string.
> 
> Finally there is a slight difference in handling strings: the size of
> the memory 'string' points to just has to be large enough to store the
> 0-terminated string instead of being able to store the maximum possible
> size of the string (max + 1). This is IMHO a design mistake regarding
> strings on my part. I should always have required that the memory is
> always sizes for the worst-case.

I see. Ok, given that string means a NUL-terminated sequence, but we
should let it very clear at DocBook that the difference between
a STRING type and a "COMPLEX" type is that on the latter, the size
is determined by a field, and not by a NUL character.

> 
> I might take another look if I can change this behavior without
> breaking existing applications.
> 
> I don't mind changing 'p' to 'ptr', no problem.
> 
> > 
> >>  	};
> >>  } __attribute__ ((packed));
> >>  
> >> @@ -1252,7 +1253,10 @@ enum v4l2_ctrl_type {
> >>  	V4L2_CTRL_TYPE_CTRL_CLASS    = 6,
> >>  	V4L2_CTRL_TYPE_STRING        = 7,
> >>  	V4L2_CTRL_TYPE_BITMASK       = 8,
> >> -	V4L2_CTRL_TYPE_INTEGER_MENU = 9,
> >> +	V4L2_CTRL_TYPE_INTEGER_MENU  = 9,
> >> +
> >> +	/* Complex types are >= 0x0100 */
> >> +	V4L2_CTRL_COMPLEX_TYPES	     = 0x0100,
> >>  };
> > 
> > Not sure if I got why you're calling it as "TYPES" and saying that
> > everything >= 0x100 is complex. What's your idea here?
> 
> Types divide into 'simple' types (the ones we have today) and the
> new complex (compound?) types. I need an easy way to determine
> which it is, so any types with values >= 0x100 fall into the latter
> category. Later in the patch series when such types are actually
> added the meaning becomes more obvious.

Ok.

> > Also, at least for me with my engineering formation, "complex"
> > means a number with an imaginary component.
> > 
> > And yes, we do have complex numbers on some usecases for
> > V4L (for example, SDR in-phase/quadrature, e. g.  I/Q
> > representation can be seen as an array of complex numbers).
> > 
> > So, I won't doubt that someone might propose some day to add a
> > way to set a complex number via a V4L2 control.
> > 
> > So, please use a better naming here to avoid troubles.
> 
> COMPOUND_TYPES? Not a bad name, I think.

Sounds a better name for me. 

> Regards,
> 
> 	Hans
> 
> > 
> >>  /*  Used in the VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL ioctl for querying controls */
> >> @@ -1288,9 +1292,12 @@ struct v4l2_querymenu {
> >>  #define V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_SLIDER 		0x0020
> >>  #define V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_WRITE_ONLY 	0x0040
> >>  #define V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_VOLATILE		0x0080
> >> +#define V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_HIDDEN		0x0100
> >> +#define V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_IS_PTR		0x0200
> >>  
> >> -/*  Query flag, to be ORed with the control ID */
> >> +/*  Query flags, to be ORed with the control ID */
> >>  #define V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_NEXT_CTRL	0x80000000
> >> +#define V4L2_CTRL_FLAG_NEXT_HIDDEN	0x40000000
> >>  
> >>  /*  User-class control IDs defined by V4L2 */
> >>  #define V4L2_CID_MAX_CTRLS		1024
> > 
> > 
> 


-- 

Regards,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-11 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-17  9:57 [REVIEWv3 PATCH 00/35] Add support for complex controls, use in solo/go7007 Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 01/35] v4l2-ctrls: increase internal min/max/step/def to 64 bit Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 02/35] v4l2-ctrls: add unit string Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 03/35] v4l2-ctrls: use pr_info/cont instead of printk Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 04/35] videodev2.h: add initial support for complex controls Hans Verkuil
2014-03-11 19:34   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-11 20:23     ` Hans Verkuil
2014-03-11 23:48       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 05/35] videodev2.h: add struct v4l2_query_ext_ctrl and VIDIOC_QUERY_EXT_CTRL Hans Verkuil
2014-03-11 19:42   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-11 20:29     ` Hans Verkuil
2014-03-11 23:35       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 06/35] v4l2-ctrls: add support for complex types Hans Verkuil
2014-03-11 20:14   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-11 20:43     ` Hans Verkuil
2014-03-11 23:43       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 07/35] v4l2: integrate support for VIDIOC_QUERY_EXT_CTRL Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 08/35] v4l2-ctrls: create type_ops Hans Verkuil
2014-03-11 20:22   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-11 20:49     ` Hans Verkuil
2014-03-11 23:56       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 09/35] v4l2-ctrls: rewrite copy routines to operate on union v4l2_ctrl_ptr Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 10/35] v4l2-ctrls: compare values only once Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 11/35] v4l2-ctrls: prepare for matrix support: add cols & rows fields Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 10:34   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 12/35] v4l2-ctrls: replace cur by a union v4l2_ctrl_ptr Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 10:38   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 13/35] v4l2-ctrls: use 'new' to access pointer controls Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 10:40   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 14/35] v4l2-ctrls: prepare for matrix support Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 10:42   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-12 12:21     ` Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 13:00       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-12 13:00       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-12 13:41         ` Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 13:44         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 15/35] v4l2-ctrls: type_ops can handle matrix elements Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 16/35] v4l2-ctrls: add matrix support Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 17/35] v4l2-ctrls: return elem_size instead of strlen Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 18/35] v4l2-ctrl: fix error return of copy_to/from_user Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 19/35] DocBook media: document VIDIOC_QUERY_EXT_CTRL Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 14:13   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-13  7:58     ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 20/35] DocBook media: update VIDIOC_G/S/TRY_EXT_CTRLS Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 14:20   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-03-13 12:18     ` Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 21/35] DocBook media: fix coding style in the control example code Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 22/35] DocBook media: update control section Hans Verkuil
2014-02-19 23:15   ` Sakari Ailus
2014-03-12 14:27   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 23/35] v4l2-controls.txt: update to the new way of accessing controls Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 24/35] v4l2-ctrls/videodev2.h: add u8 and u16 types Hans Verkuil
2014-03-12 14:44   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 25/35] DocBook media: document new u8 and u16 control types Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 26/35] v4l2-ctrls: fix comments Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 27/35] v4l2-ctrls/v4l2-controls.h: add MD controls Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 28/35] DocBook media: document new motion detection controls Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 29/35] v4l2: add a motion detection event Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 30/35] DocBook: document new v4l " Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 31/35] solo6x10: implement the new motion detection controls Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 32/35] solo6x10: implement the motion detection event Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 33/35] solo6x10: fix 'dma from stack' warning Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 34/35] solo6x10: check dma_map_sg() return value Hans Verkuil
2014-02-17  9:57 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 35/35] go7007: add motion detection support Hans Verkuil
2014-02-19  8:28 ` [REVIEWv3 PATCH 00/35] Add support for complex controls, use in solo/go7007 Ricardo Ribalda Delgado
2014-02-19  8:54   ` Hans Verkuil

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