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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Graham Whaley <graham.whaley@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:13:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160303071305.247e30b1@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y49zr74t.fsf@intel.com>

On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 16:03:14 +0200
Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com> wrote:

> This stalled a bit, but the waters are still muddy...

I've been dealing with real-world obnoxiousness, something which won't
come to an immediate end, unfortunately.  But I have been taking some time
to mess with things, and hope to have some more POC patches to send out
soon.

> Is the Sphinx/reStructuredText table support adequate for media/v4l
> documentation?

That's perhaps the biggest question.  My sense is "yes", but this needs a
bit more assurance than that.

> Are the Sphinx output formats adequate in general? Specifically, is the
> lack of DocBook support, and the flexibility it provides, a blocker?

DocBook is a means to an end; nobody really wants DocBook itself as far
as I can tell. I've been messing with rst2pdf a bit; it's not hard to get
reasonable output, and, with some effort, we could probably get really
nice output. HTML and EPUB are easily covered, still haven't really played
around with man pages yet.  And there's LaTeX if we really need it.  I
kind of think we're covered there, unless I've missed something?

> Otherwise, I think Sphinx is promising.
> 
> Jon, I think we need a roll of dice, err, a well-thought-out decision
> from the maintainer to go with one or the other, so we can make some
> real progress.

My inclination at the moment is very much in the Sphinx direction.  I had
some vague thoughts of pushing a throwaway experimental directory with a
couple of docs for 4.6 that would just let people play with it easily;
then we'd see how many screams we get.  We'll see if the world lets me get
there.

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-03 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <86fuwwcdmd.fsf@hiro.keithp.com>
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     [not found]     ` <20160217151401.3cb82f65@lwn.net>
     [not found]       ` <CAKMK7uEqbSrhc2nh0LjC1fztciM4eTjtKE9T_wMVCqAkkTnzkA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <874md6fkna.fsf@intel.com>
     [not found]           ` <CAKMK7uE72wFEFCyw1dHbt+f3-ex3fr_9MbjoGfnKFZkd5+9S2Q@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-18 10:26             ` Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 11:23               ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-18 12:04                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 12:07                   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-02-18 12:44                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 13:34                       ` Patrick Boettcher
2016-03-03 14:03 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-03 14:13   ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2016-03-03 14:34     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-03-03 15:17       ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-03-03 15:45         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-03-03 18:50     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-03 23:23       ` Keith Packard
2016-03-04  1:19         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04  8:29           ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-04  8:59             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-04 12:59             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04 14:09               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-06  2:29                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-06 23:29                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-07  8:48                     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-07 12:15                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-07 12:19                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04  7:28         ` Russel Winder
2016-03-04  7:46           ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-08  4:53             ` Russel Winder
     [not found]           ` <CAKeHnO6sSV1x2xh_HgbD5ddZ8rp+SVvbdjVhczhudc9iv_-UCQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08  9:49             ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-08 11:29               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                 ` <CAKeHnO7R25knFH07+3trdi0ZotsrEE+5ZzDZXdx33+DUW=q2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 13:39                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-08 15:39                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-09 21:27                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-10 10:25                         ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-10 15:21                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-13 15:33                             ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-08 15:12                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-12  9:18                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2016-04-12 15:46                                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-04-18  9:49                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-27 14:28                                   ` Grant Likely
2016-05-03 14:31                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-03 15:54                                       ` Keith Packard
2016-05-04  9:34                                       ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04  9:58                                         ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 12:40                                           ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 13:41                                             ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 15:09                                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 13:43                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 14:18                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 14:57                                                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 15:02                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 16:32                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 15:44                                                   ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 16:38                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 15:55                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 16:13                                                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 16:50                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 16:59                                                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 17:57                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-05 13:02                                                         ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-05 13:23                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 11:23                                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 11:44                                                     ` Markus Heiser
     [not found]                                                     ` <20160506083529.31ad2fa0@recife.lan>
     [not found]                                                       ` <BAE3C147-6C21-4242-BD3C-8989C1626E10@darmarit.de>
     [not found]                                                         ` <20160506104210.12197832@recife.lan>
2016-05-06 14:27                                                           ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 15:06                                                             ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-06 15:23                                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 15:35                                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 15:52                                                                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-06 15:14                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 16:15                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 10:05                                           ` Markus Heiser
     [not found]                                             ` <20160506080304.56307066@recife.lan>
2016-05-06 16:26                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 17:06                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                                 ` <20160412105850.50e02108@recife.lan>
2016-04-18  8:10                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-18 11:16                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]               ` <CAKeHnO7_7k8Qc5Jmu_x2OzAVT4YXxW8PSe_m6QUP-8V7XxbTVw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 13:30                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-08 13:58                 ` Jani Nikula
     [not found]                   ` <CAKeHnO7e5Escm0Ndm50eFX-qUXf7Lg9n=iXvwUGjz2M4KHLMsQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-09  8:57                     ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-07  3:48   ` Jonathan Corbet

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