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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>
To: Dan Allen <dan@opendevise.io>
Cc: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Russel Winder <russel@winder.org.uk>,
	Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Graham Whaley <graham.whaley@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 10:30:03 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160308103003.5747c76e@recife.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKeHnO7_7k8Qc5Jmu_x2OzAVT4YXxW8PSe_m6QUP-8V7XxbTVw@mail.gmail.com>

Em Tue, 08 Mar 2016 05:09:40 -0700
Dan Allen <dan@opendevise.io> escreveu:

> Jani wrote:
> 
> > there was no support for chunked, or split
> > to chapters, HTML, and the single page result was simply way too big.
> >  
> 
> That's not entirely true. First, you can pre-split at the source level
> using includes and generate output for each of the masters. That's what I
> tend to do and it works really well since these are logical split points.

The problem on pre-splitting the documents and process them in separate
is that this will break cross-references. At the media uAPI Docbook,
we use a lot of cross references.

Btw, we use a lot of includes. Currently, it has 187 separate files.

We even parse the header files looking for typedefs, structs, enums,
#defines and functions, in order to produce a document that will
cross-reference the documentation.

> Second, there is a custom converter in the works to split post-generate
> (which is really what we're talking about when we compare it to the DocBook
> toolchain).
> 
> https://github.com/asciidoctor/asciidoctor-extensions-lab/blob/master/lib/multipage-html5-converter.rb
> 
> It's just a prototype, but proves it is possible by design.

I didn't test it, but I saw some comments at the web that the part
that would handle cross-references between files is not ready.

> Personally, I don't like most chunked HTML approaches because they split
> arbitrarily. We are trying to find the right balance so that the output is
> actually sensible. There's still work to do, but there are options in the
> meantime.

Well, if it is capable of creating one chunk per include file, and do
cross-references between chunks, this would work for media UAPI book.

Yet, it would be good to have the multi-chunk extension packaged
on major distros, as I don't like the idea of installing it without
using my distro's package manager.

-- 
Thanks,
Mauro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-08 13:30 UTC|newest]

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2016-02-18 10:26             ` Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 11:23               ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-18 12:04                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 12:07                   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-02-18 12:44                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 13:34                       ` Patrick Boettcher
2016-03-03 14:03 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-03 14:13   ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-03-03 14:34     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-03-03 15:17       ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-03-03 15:45         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-03-03 18:50     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-03 23:23       ` Keith Packard
2016-03-04  1:19         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04  8:29           ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-04  8:59             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-04 12:59             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04 14:09               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-06  2:29                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-06 23:29                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-07  8:48                     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-07 12:15                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-07 12:19                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04  7:28         ` Russel Winder
2016-03-04  7:46           ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-08  4:53             ` Russel Winder
     [not found]           ` <CAKeHnO6sSV1x2xh_HgbD5ddZ8rp+SVvbdjVhczhudc9iv_-UCQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08  9:49             ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-08 11:29               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                 ` <CAKeHnO7R25knFH07+3trdi0ZotsrEE+5ZzDZXdx33+DUW=q2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 13:39                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-08 15:39                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-09 21:27                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-10 10:25                         ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-10 15:21                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-13 15:33                             ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-08 15:12                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-12  9:18                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2016-04-12 15:46                                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-04-18  9:49                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-27 14:28                                   ` Grant Likely
2016-05-03 14:31                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-03 15:54                                       ` Keith Packard
2016-05-04  9:34                                       ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04  9:58                                         ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 12:40                                           ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 13:41                                             ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 15:09                                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 13:43                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 14:18                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 14:57                                                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 15:02                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 16:32                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 15:44                                                   ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 16:38                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 15:55                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 16:13                                                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 16:50                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 16:59                                                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 17:57                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-05 13:02                                                         ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-05 13:23                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 11:23                                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 11:44                                                     ` Markus Heiser
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     [not found]                                                       ` <BAE3C147-6C21-4242-BD3C-8989C1626E10@darmarit.de>
     [not found]                                                         ` <20160506104210.12197832@recife.lan>
2016-05-06 14:27                                                           ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 15:06                                                             ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-06 15:23                                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 15:35                                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 15:52                                                                 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-06 15:14                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 16:15                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 10:05                                           ` Markus Heiser
     [not found]                                             ` <20160506080304.56307066@recife.lan>
2016-05-06 16:26                                               ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 17:06                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                                 ` <20160412105850.50e02108@recife.lan>
2016-04-18  8:10                                   ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-18 11:16                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]               ` <CAKeHnO7_7k8Qc5Jmu_x2OzAVT4YXxW8PSe_m6QUP-8V7XxbTVw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 13:30                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2016-03-08 13:58                 ` Jani Nikula
     [not found]                   ` <CAKeHnO7e5Escm0Ndm50eFX-qUXf7Lg9n=iXvwUGjz2M4KHLMsQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-09  8:57                     ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-07  3:48   ` Jonathan Corbet

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