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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@osg.samsung.com>
Cc: <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuahkh@osg.samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] [media] v4l2-mc.h: Add a S-Video C input PAD to demod enum
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:50:34 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160321145034.6fa4e677@recife.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56F01AE7.6070508@xs4all.nl>

Hi Hans,

Em Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:01:43 +0100
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> escreveu:

> > A reasonable solution to simplify converting legacy drivers without creating
> > these global ugly pad indices is to add a new video (and probably audio) op
> > 'g_pad_of_type(type)' where you ask the subdev entity to return which pad carries
> > signals of a certain type.  
> 
> This basically puts a layer between the low-level pads as defined by the entity
> and the 'meta-pads' that a generic MC link creator would need to handle legacy
> drivers. The nice thing is that this is wholly inside the kernel so we can
> modify it at will later without impacting userspace.

I prepared a long answer to your email, but I guess we're not at the
same page.

Let be clear on my view. Please let me know where you disagree:

1) I'm not defending Javier's patchset. I have my restrictions to
it too. My understanding is that he sent this as a RFC for feeding
our discussions for the media summit.

Javier, please correct me if I'm wrong.

2) I don't understand what you're calling as "meta-pads". For me, a
PAD is a physical set of pins. 

3) IMO, the best is to have just one PAD for a decoder input. That makes
everything simple, yet functional.

In my view, the input PAD will be linked to several "input connections".
So, in the case of tvp5150, it will have:

	- composite 1
	- composite 2
	- s-video

4) On that view, the input PAD is actually a set of pins. In the
case of tvp5150, the pins that compose the input PADs are
AIP1A and AIP1B.

The output PAD is also a set of pins YOUT0 to YOUT7, plus some other
pins for sync. Yet, it should, IMHO, have just one output PAD at
the MC graph.

-- 
Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09 19:09 [RFC PATCH 0/3] [media] tvp515p: Proposal for MC input connector support Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-09 19:09 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] [media] v4l2-mc.h: Add a S-Video C input PAD to demod enum Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-18 15:45   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-18 17:33     ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-21 14:40       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-21 15:05         ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-21 16:01           ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-21 17:50             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2016-03-21 18:08               ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-21 18:23                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-21 18:48                   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-21 18:24                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-21 18:34                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-21 18:38                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-21 18:51                     ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-21 19:06                   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-21 19:20                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-21 19:30                       ` Hans Verkuil
2016-03-21 19:48                         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-21 21:15                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-22  0:22                             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-21 21:20                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-22  0:16                         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-09 19:09 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] [media] tvp5150: Add input connectors DT bindings Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-09 19:09 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] [media] tvp5150: Replace connector support according to DT binding Javier Martinez Canillas
2016-03-18 15:01 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] [media] tvp515p: Proposal for MC input connector support Javier Martinez Canillas

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