From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from tex.lwn.net ([70.33.254.29]:57892 "EHLO vena.lwn.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751203AbcEENCS (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 May 2016 09:02:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 07:02:10 -0600 From: Jonathan Corbet To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Jani Nikula , Markus Heiser , Daniel Vetter , Daniel Vetter , Grant Likely , "Dan Allen" , Russel Winder , "Keith Packard" , LKML , , Hans Verkuil , "linux-media@vger.kernel.org linux-media" , Graham Whaley Subject: Re: Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit Message-ID: <20160505070210.477a568c@lwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20160504145738.34e6bf5a@recife.lan> References: <87fuvypr2h.fsf@intel.com> <20160310122101.2fca3d79@recife.lan> <8992F589-5B66-4BDB-807A-79AC8644F006@darmarit.de> <20160412094620.4fbf05c0@lwn.net> <54CDCFE8-45C3-41F6-9497-E02DB4184048@darmarit.de> <874maef8km.fsf@intel.com> <13D877B1-B9A2-412A-BA43-C6A5B881A536@darmarit.de> <20160504134346.GY14148@phenom.ffwll.local> <44110C0C-2E98-4470-9DB1-B72406E901A0@darmarit.de> <87inytn6n2.fsf@intel.com> <20160504135035.1f055fa7@recife.lan> <20160504105936.34c2697f@lwn.net> <20160504145738.34e6bf5a@recife.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, 4 May 2016 14:57:38 -0300 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Also, media documentation is not just one more documentation. It is > the biggest one we have, and that has more changes than any other > documentation under Documentation/DocBook: > > $ git lg --since 01/01/2015 ` ls *.tmpl|grep -v media`|wc -l > 116 > $ git lg --since 01/01/2015 ` ls *.tmpl|grep media` `find media/ -type f`|wc -l > 179 > > It also is more than twice the size of the other DocBook docs: > > $ wc -l $(ls *.tmpl|grep media) `find media/ -type f`|tail -1 > 82275 total > $ wc -l $(ls *.tmpl|grep -v media)|tail -1 > 29568 total > > E. g. media corresponds to 60% of the number of patches and 73% of > the DocBook stuff. These numbers are not entirely representative, I have to say. You're ignoring the kerneldoc comments - which is what much of the "DocBook" documents are made of, and which is the focus of much of this activity. If you could find a way to count those, you'd get a different picture. But I don't think that really matters; there doesn't seem to be *that* much disagreement here. The media book is important; we want it to be a part of the overall kernel documentation suite and not stuck in some DocBook ghetto. I agree that we should have an idea for a plausible path for *all* of our documentation. But I'm also concerned about delaying this work yet again; we have developers trying to push forward with improved documentation, and they've had to wait a year for this stuff - so far. Thanks, jon