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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Shuah Khan <shuahkh@osg.samsung.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 00/21] Make use of kref in media device, grab references as needed
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:08:26 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161215150826.0ca646a3@vento.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47bf7ca7-2375-3dfa-775c-a56d6bd9dabd@xs4all.nl>

Em Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:26:19 +0100
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> escreveu:

> > Should all the entities stick around until all references to media
> > device are gone? If an application has /dev/media open, does that
> > mean all entities should not be free'd until this app. exits? What
> > should happen if an app. is streaming? Should the graph stay intact
> > until the app. exits?  
> 
> Yes, everything must stay around until the last user has disappeared.
> 
> In general unplugs can happen at any time. So applications can be in the middle
> of an ioctl, and removing memory during that time is just impossible.
> 
> On unplug you:
> 
> 1) stop any HW DMA (highly device dependent)
> 2) wake up any filehandles that wait for an event
> 3) unregister any device nodes
> 
> Then just sit back and wait for refcounts to go down as filehandles are closed
> by the application.
> 
> Note: the v4l2/media/cec/IR/whatever core is typically responsible for rejecting
> any ioctls/mmap/etc. once the device node has been unregistered. The only valid
> file operation is release().

Agreed. The problem on OMAP3 is that it doesn't stop HW DMA when
struct media_devnode is released. It tries to do it later, when the
V4L2 core is unbind, by trying to dig into the media controller
struct that the driver removed before.

That's said, for OMAP3 and all other drivers that don't support hot unplug,
I would just use suppress_bind_attrs, as I fail to see any need to allow
unbinding them.

Thanks,
Mauro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-15 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-26 23:43 [RFC v3 00/21] Make use of kref in media device, grab references as needed Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 01/21] Revert "[media] media: fix media devnode ioctl/syscall and unregister race" Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 02/21] Revert "[media] media: fix use-after-free in cdev_put() when app exits after driver unbind" Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 03/21] Revert "[media] media-device: dynamically allocate struct media_devnode" Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 04/21] media: Remove useless curly braces and parentheses Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 05/21] media: devnode: Rename mdev argument as devnode Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 06/21] media device: Drop nop release callback Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 07/21] media-device: Make devnode.dev->kobj parent of devnode.cdev Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 08/21] media: Enable allocating the media device dynamically Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 09/21] media: Split initialising and adding media devnode Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 10/21] media: Shuffle functions around Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 11/21] media device: Refcount the media device Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 12/21] media device: Initialise media devnode in media_device_init() Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 13/21] media device: Deprecate media_device_{init,cleanup}() for drivers Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 14/21] media device: Get the media device driver's device Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 15/21] media: Provide a way to the driver to set a private pointer Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 16/21] media: Add release callback for media device Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 17/21] v4l: Acquire a reference to the media device for every video device Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 18/21] media-device: Postpone graph object removal until free Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 19/21] omap3isp: Allocate the media device dynamically Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 20/21] omap3isp: Release the isp device struct by media device callback Sakari Ailus
2016-08-26 23:43 ` [RFC v3 21/21] omap3isp: Don't rely on devm for memory resource management Sakari Ailus
2016-12-15 11:23   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-15 11:39     ` Sakari Ailus
2016-12-15 11:42       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-15 11:45         ` Sakari Ailus
2016-12-15 11:57           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-15 19:17             ` Shuah Khan
2016-12-16 13:32     ` Sakari Ailus
2016-12-16 14:39       ` Shuah Khan
2016-11-07 20:16 ` [RFC v3 00/21] Make use of kref in media device, grab references as needed Shuah Khan
2016-11-08  8:19   ` Sakari Ailus
2016-11-09 16:49     ` Shuah Khan
2016-11-09 17:00       ` Shuah Khan
2016-11-09 17:46         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-11-14 13:27           ` Sakari Ailus
2016-11-22 17:44             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-11-22 18:13               ` Hans Verkuil
2016-11-22 18:41                 ` Shuah Khan
2016-11-22 22:56               ` Shuah Khan
2016-11-28 10:45               ` Sakari Ailus
2016-11-29 11:13                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-13 10:53                   ` Sakari Ailus
2016-12-13 12:24                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-13 22:23                       ` Shuah Khan
2016-12-15 10:39                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-15 14:56                           ` Shuah Khan
2016-12-16 16:58                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-15 11:30                       ` Sakari Ailus
2016-12-15 12:56                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-15 14:03                           ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-15 14:32                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-15 14:45                               ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-15 15:45                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-15 16:07                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-16 16:47                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-16 16:43                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-15 14:45                             ` Shuah Khan
2016-12-15 15:26                               ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-15 16:06                                 ` Shuah Khan
2016-12-15 16:28                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-15 17:09                                     ` Shuah Khan
2016-12-15 17:25                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-15 17:51                                         ` Shuah Khan
2016-12-16 10:11                                           ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-16 10:57                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-16 11:27                                               ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-16 12:00                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-16 14:45                                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-19  9:28                                                     ` Media summit in Feb? - Was: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-21  1:31                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-21 14:27                                                         ` Shuah Khan
2016-12-22 17:47                                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-22 20:43                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-16 10:03                                       ` Hans Verkuil
2016-12-16 10:12                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-12-23 18:13                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-15 17:08                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2016-12-23 17:55                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-23 17:48                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-23 17:27                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-16 15:07                             ` Sakari Ailus
2016-12-16 16:34                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-19  9:46                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-01-02  7:53                                 ` Sakari Ailus
2017-01-24 10:49                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-01-25 11:02                                     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-01-26  9:10                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-30 23:41                                         ` Shuah Khan

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