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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
To: Daniel Scheller <d.scheller.oss@gmail.com>,
	Abylay Ospan <aospan@netup.ru>
Cc: Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, mchehab@kernel.org,
	liplianin@netup.ru, rjkm@metzlerbros.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] [media] dvb-frontends/stv0367: initial DDB DVBv5 stats, implement ucblocks
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 13:12:16 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170624131216.5762b2aa@vento.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621174504.3f7d57a6@audiostation.wuest.de>

Em Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:45:04 +0200
Daniel Scheller <d.scheller.oss@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Am Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:06:22 +0300
> schrieb Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>:
> 
> > On 06/20/2017 08:45 PM, Daniel Scheller wrote:  
> > > From: Daniel Scheller <d.scheller@gmx.net>
> > > 
> > > This adds the basics to stv0367ddb_get_frontend() to be able to properly
> > > provide signal statistics in DVBv5 format. Also adds UCB readout and
> > > provides those values.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Daniel Scheller <d.scheller@gmx.net>
> > > ---
> > >   drivers/media/dvb-frontends/stv0367.c | 59 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > >   1 file changed, 55 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/media/dvb-frontends/stv0367.c b/drivers/media/dvb-frontends/stv0367.c
> > > index e726c2e00460..5374d4eaabd6 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/media/dvb-frontends/stv0367.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/media/dvb-frontends/stv0367.c
> > > @@ -2997,21 +2997,64 @@ static int stv0367ddb_read_status(struct dvb_frontend *fe,
> > >   	return -EINVAL;
> > >   }
> > >   
> > > +static void stv0367ddb_read_ucblocks(struct dvb_frontend *fe)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct stv0367_state *state = fe->demodulator_priv;
> > > +	struct dtv_frontend_properties *p = &fe->dtv_property_cache;
> > > +	u32 ucblocks = 0;
> > > +
> > > +	switch (state->activedemod) {
> > > +	case demod_ter:
> > > +		stv0367ter_read_ucblocks(fe, &ucblocks);
> > > +		break;
> > > +	case demod_cab:
> > > +		stv0367cab_read_ucblcks(fe, &ucblocks);
> > > +		break;
> > > +	default:
> > > +		p->block_error.stat[0].scale = FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE;
> > > +		return;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	p->block_error.stat[0].scale = FE_SCALE_COUNTER;
> > > +	p->block_error.stat[0].uvalue = ucblocks;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > >   static int stv0367ddb_get_frontend(struct dvb_frontend *fe,
> > >   				   struct dtv_frontend_properties *p)
> > >   {
> > >   	struct stv0367_state *state = fe->demodulator_priv;
> > > +	int ret = -EINVAL;
> > > +	enum fe_status status = 0;
> > >   
> > >   	switch (state->activedemod) {
> > >   	case demod_ter:
> > > -		return stv0367ter_get_frontend(fe, p);
> > > +		ret = stv0367ter_get_frontend(fe, p);
> > > +		break;
> > >   	case demod_cab:
> > > -		return stv0367cab_get_frontend(fe, p);
> > > -	default:
> > > +		ret = stv0367cab_get_frontend(fe, p);
> > >   		break;
> > > +	default:
> > > +		p->strength.stat[0].scale = FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE;
> > > +		p->cnr.stat[0].scale = FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE;
> > > +		p->block_error.stat[0].scale = FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE;
> > > +		return ret;
> > >   	}
> > >   
> > > -	return -EINVAL;
> > > +	/* read fe lock status */
> > > +	if (!ret)
> > > +		ret = stv0367ddb_read_status(fe, &status);
> > > +
> > > +	/* stop if get_frontend failed or if demod isn't locked */
> > > +	if (ret || !(status & FE_HAS_LOCK)) {
> > > +		p->strength.stat[0].scale = FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE;
> > > +		p->cnr.stat[0].scale = FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE;
> > > +		p->block_error.stat[0].scale = FE_SCALE_NOT_AVAILABLE;
> > > +		return ret;
> > > +	}    
> > 
> > Requiring LOCK for strength and cnr sounds wrong. Demod usually 
> > calculates strength from IF and RF AGC and those are available even 
> > there is no signal at all (demod set those gains to max on that case). 
> > CNR is pretty often available when inner FEC (viterbi, LDPC) is on sync.
> > 
> > And for ber and per you need outer fec (reed-solomon, bch) too which is 
> > FE_HAS_SYNC flag on api. ber is error bit and count after inner fec, per 
> > is error packet and count after outer fec. Usually ber is counted as a 
> > bits and per is counted as a 204 ts packets.  
> 
> Re ber/per, note that I don't have any register documentation available, everything has been gathered from this and from DD's stv0367dd driver. That said, the same applies to FE_HAS_SYNC. This driver currently only reports FE_HAS_LOCK for both OFDM and QAM operation modes, see L1503 (OFDM) and L2152. In stv0367dd, lock state acquisition is a bit more detailed. For the ddb-parts though, I even had to implement a var which carries the register which tells us in QAM mode where to acquire the lockstate from, so I don't want to blindly carry over that code since this will risk breakage of all other consumers of the stv0367 demod driver and thus the card support, neither do I want to additionally port over the read_status code since this will result in unneeded duplication of things. So atm things won't improve unless someone with some other hardware using this demod pops up, willing to experiment.

> Of course I can do snr/cnr readout regardless of FE_HAS_LOCK - no strong opinion on this (needs a quick test though). Depending on if you make this a strong change requirement - please elaborate.

Daniel,

You don't need register documentation to know that UCB stats won't be 
available before locks.

As this is the second time this week a different developer is having
issues to implement it the right way, I'm, assuming a \mea culpa\, as
we have almost no documentation about that.

So, I decided to write a patch for the DVB documentation, explaining how
we expect it to be done and why:
	https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/42081/

> Of course I can do snr/cnr readout regardless of FE_HAS_LOCK - no strong opinion on this (needs a quick test though). Depending on if you make this a strong change requirement - please elaborate.

> > Also having that statistics stuff updated inside a get_frontend() sounds 
> > wrong. I think that callback is optional and is not called unless 
> > userspace polls it.  
> 
> I oriented myself on other drivers (cxd2841er for example also does this stuff in get_frontend). In your af9033 I saw you're doing this in read_status though. Would that be preferred?

I guess we pointed this issue to Abylay when I reviewed his 
patchset adding the cxd2841 driver. I guess I ended merging without
this fix.

Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-24 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20 17:45 [PATCH 0/4] STV0367/DDB DVBv5 signal statistics Daniel Scheller
2017-06-20 17:45 ` [PATCH 1/4] [media] dvb-frontends/stv0367: initial DDB DVBv5 stats, implement ucblocks Daniel Scheller
2017-06-21  6:06   ` Antti Palosaari
2017-06-21 15:45     ` Daniel Scheller
2017-06-24 16:12       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2017-06-20 17:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] [media] dvb-frontends/stv0367: split SNR determination into functions Daniel Scheller
2017-06-20 17:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] [media] dvb-frontends/stv0367: SNR DVBv5 statistics for DVB-C and T Daniel Scheller
2017-06-21  6:30   ` Antti Palosaari
2017-06-21 15:50     ` Daniel Scheller
2017-06-21 19:31       ` Antti Palosaari
2017-06-20 17:45 ` [PATCH 4/4] [media] dvb-frontends/stv0367: DVB-C signal strength statistics Daniel Scheller

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