From: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@padovan.org>
To: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@osg.samsung.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
Shuah Khan <shuahkh@osg.samsung.com>,
Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/12] [media] vb2: add 'ordered' property to queues
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 12:22:39 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170626152239.GA3090@jade> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1497632193.6020.19.camel@ndufresne.ca>
Hi Nicolas,
2017-06-16 Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>:
> Le vendredi 16 juin 2017 à 16:39 +0900, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
> > > From: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.com>
> >
> > For explicit synchronization (and soon for HAL3/Request API) we need
> > the v4l2-driver to guarantee the ordering which the buffer were queued
> > by userspace. This is already true for many drivers, but we never had
> > the need to say it.
>
> Phrased this way, that sound like a statement that a m2m decoder
> handling b-frame will just never be supported. I think decoders are a
> very important use case for explicit synchronization.
>
> What I believe happens with decoders is simply that the allocation
> order (the order in which empty buffers are retrieved from the queue)
> will be different then the actual presentation order. Also, multiple
> buffers endup being filled at the same time. Some firmware may inform
> of the new order at the last minute, making indeed the fence useless,
> but these are firmware and the information can be known earlier. Also,
> this information would be known by userspace for the case (up-coming,
> see STM patches and Rockchip comments [0]) or state-less decoder,
> because it is available while parsing the bitstream. For this last
> scenarios, the fact that ordering is not the same should disable the
> fences since userspace can know which fences to wait for first. Those
> drivers would need to set "ordered" to 0, which would be counter
> intuitive.
>
> I think this use case is too important to just ignore it. I would
> expect that we at least have a todo with something sensible as a plan
> to cover this.
We definitely need to cover these usecases, I sent the patchset in a
hurry just before going on vacation and forget to lay down any plan for
other things. But for now, I believe we need refine the implementation
of the most common case and then look at expanding it.
Gustavo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-26 15:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-16 7:39 [PATCH 00/12] V4L2 explicit synchronization support Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 01/12] [media] vb2: add explicit fence user API Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-18 14:09 ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-18 14:58 ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-26 15:39 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-04 5:57 ` Tomasz Figa
2017-07-04 6:27 ` Alexandre Courbot
2017-06-30 11:12 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 02/12] [media] vb2: split out queueing from vb_core_qbuf() Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-30 11:15 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-06 7:46 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-07 1:04 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 03/12] [media] vb2: add in-fence support to QBUF Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-18 15:36 ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-30 11:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-03 18:16 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-06 9:43 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-07 1:12 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-06 8:29 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-07 1:53 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-07 7:15 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-10 19:27 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-06 9:18 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-07 2:00 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-07 7:06 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-10 19:02 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-10 20:26 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-11 5:57 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-11 12:56 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 04/12] [media] uvc: enable subscriptions to other events Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-07 14:38 ` Shuah Khan
2017-07-10 19:38 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-26 0:26 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 05/12] [media] vivid: assign the specific device to the vb2_queue->dev Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-06 8:36 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-07 17:15 ` Shuah Khan
2017-07-10 19:42 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-26 0:17 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 06/12] [media] v4l: add V4L2_EVENT_BUF_QUEUED event Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-30 12:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 07/12] [media] v4l: add support to BUF_QUEUED event Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-30 12:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-03 18:36 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-06 9:34 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-10 19:45 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-06 8:47 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 08/12] [media] vb2: add 'ordered' property to queues Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 16:56 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-06-26 15:22 ` Gustavo Padovan [this message]
2017-07-06 9:08 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 09/12] [media] vivid: mark vivid queues as ordered Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-06 8:37 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-07 17:31 ` Shuah Khan
2017-07-10 19:47 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 10/12] [media] vb2: add videobuf2 dma-buf fence helpers Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 11/12] [media] vb2: add infrastructure to support out-fences Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-16 7:39 ` [PATCH 12/12] [media] vb2: add out-fence support to QBUF Gustavo Padovan
2017-07-06 9:27 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-06 9:29 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-07-10 20:19 ` Gustavo Padovan
2017-06-30 12:18 ` [PATCH 00/12] V4L2 explicit synchronization support Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-07-03 18:40 ` Gustavo Padovan
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