From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Gregor Jasny <gjasny@googlemail.com>
Cc: Ariel D'Alessandro <ariel.dalessandro@collabora.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, hverkuil@xs4all.nl, sean@mess.org,
p.zabel@pengutronix.de, laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com,
ezequiel@collabora.com, nicolas@ndufresne.ca,
kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com, xavier.claessens@collabora.com,
nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com, user.vdr@gmail.com,
sakari.ailus@iki.fi
Subject: Re: [v4l-utils v4 2/5] Add support for meson building
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 20:32:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210320203209.14c65453@coco.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7096f897-1e48-c1e5-5503-008fff60d2b2@googlemail.com>
Em Sat, 20 Mar 2021 17:56:10 +0100
Gregor Jasny <gjasny@googlemail.com> escreveu:
> Hello,
>
> Thank you again for these patches. Building v4l-utils has never been so
> fast and easy. It will accelerate my Debian / Ubuntu packaging and
> really sparks joy!
>
> On 17.03.21 18:22, Ariel D'Alessandro wrote:
> > Supports building libraries and tools found in contrib/, lib/ and
> > utils/ directories, along with the implemented gettext translations.
>
> Here's a patch on top of your tree:
> https://gitlab.com/gjasny/v4l-utils/-/commit/a9853f79c2675bf08fc3e93f15aa4158c9769bdd
>
> I changed the following:
> * Use pkgconfig to detect libbpf (like configure.ac does)
> * check for libbpf presence in the keytable subdir (like it's done for
> libelf
> * refined the empty rc_keymaps dir hack with something supported by
> meson: https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/issues/2904 (your hack
> stopped working for me with meson on Ubuntu 20.04.2)
>
> With those changes I could successfully build a Debian package using meson.
>
> Thanks,
> Gregor
>
> PS: I could not find Mauro in the CC list.
I'm not a lover of autoconf tools. Yet, replacing from it on this
project sounds a bad idea, for a couple of reasons.
The main one is that nobody has yet provided any real reason about
*why* auto-tools should be replaced.
Auto-tools is reliable, stable and has been used since the
beginning of this project. It is well-known and it is maintained
upstream. It is present on all Linux distros and installing it
doesn't require lots of packages for it to work. It is easy to
keep maintaining it, and I never had to touch the Jenkins builder
due to some troubles with autoconf packages.
The only package we have at jenkins using meson broke quite a
few times due to problems with meson toolset versions.
So, switching from autotools will just place us on an unknown
territory for no reason.
Besides that:
1) meson doesn't support yet in-tree compilation. This is
a feature that I use a lot;
2) Meson setup is *a way more complex* than autotools. With
auto-tools, everything is on a single file (plus standard
Makefiles):
$ wc -l configure.ac
660
The meson config is a way bigger and it is spread on multiple
files, with is 3 times bigger than our current configure.ac:
$ wc -l $(find . -name 'meson*' -type f|grep -v .git)
3 ./v4l-utils-po/meson.build
3 ./libdvbv5-po/meson.build
117 ./lib/libv4lconvert/meson.build
23 ./lib/libv4l-mplane/meson.build
70 ./lib/libv4l2/meson.build
36 ./lib/libv4l2rds/meson.build
61 ./lib/libv4l1/meson.build
158 ./lib/libdvbv5/meson.build
11 ./lib/meson.build
151 ./utils/keytable/rc_keymaps/meson.build
31 ./utils/keytable/bpf_protocols/meson.build
81 ./utils/keytable/meson.build
70 ./utils/dvb/meson.build
14 ./utils/libmedia_dev/meson.build
8 ./utils/cx18-ctl/meson.build
58 ./utils/v4l2-compliance/meson.build
19 ./utils/cec-follower/meson.build
80 ./utils/qv4l2/meson.build
82 ./utils/qvidcap/meson.build
23 ./utils/ir-ctl/meson.build
22 ./utils/cec-compliance/meson.build
16 ./utils/libv4l2util/meson.build
13 ./utils/rds-ctl/meson.build
43 ./utils/media-ctl/meson.build
45 ./utils/libcecutil/meson.build
18 ./utils/cec-ctl/meson.build
16 ./utils/v4l2-dbg/meson.build
75 ./utils/v4l2-ctl/meson.build
14 ./utils/v4l2-sysfs-path/meson.build
13 ./utils/ivtv-ctl/meson.build
46 ./utils/meson.build
50 ./meson_options.txt
34 ./doc/meson.build
8 ./contrib/cobalt-ctl/meson.build
11 ./contrib/xc3028-firmware/meson.build
44 ./contrib/gconv/meson.build
7 ./contrib/rds-saa6588/meson.build
14 ./contrib/decode_tm6000/meson.build
143 ./contrib/test/meson.build
13 ./contrib/meson.build
318 ./meson.build
2062 total
Ok, part of it seems because meson doesn't like Makefiles, which
is, IMHO, a misfeature, as it makes harder to identify what are
the actual build instructions for each target.
4) As the new build config files are bigger and use a different
syntax than configure.ac, it will require time and efforts to
learn how to use and modify it. Again, there's no need for
doing that;
5) I don't know how to integrate meson with Coverity, as the
current procedure assumes an in-tree Makefile set that
will be used by cov-build to produce an out-of-tree build.
6) with our configure.ac, it is easy to check what options
were enabled or not:
compile time options summary
============================
Host OS : linux-gnu
X11 : yes
GL : yes
glu : yes
libelf : yes
libjpeg : yes
libudev : yes
pthread : yes
QT version : v5.4 with QtGL
ALSA support : yes
SDL support : yes
build dynamic libs : yes
build static libs : yes
gconv : no
dynamic libv4l : yes
v4l_plugins : yes
v4l_wrappers : yes
libdvbv5 : yes
dvbv5-daemon : yes
v4lutils : yes
qv4l2 : yes
qvidcap : yes
v4l2-ctl uses libv4l : yes
v4l2-ctl-32 : no
v4l2-compliance : yes
v4l2-compliance uses libv4l: yes
v4l2-compliance-32 : no
BPF IR Decoders: : no
at least the current meson patches don't have anything similar.
This also affects Coverity builds, as we need the selected options
to be logged, as the coverity scan complains if the code is only
partially built (to the point to simply ignore incomplete builds):
Subject: Coverity Scan: Analysis failed for v4l-utils
Your request for analysis of v4l-utils is failed.
Analysis status: Failure
Please fix the error and upload the build again.
Error details:
The build uploaded has been only partially compiled. We recommend at least 85% capture success to avoid false-positives during analysis. As per last few lines of cov-int/build-log.txt, the percentage of compilation units ready for analysis is 80% which is less than the expected 85%
7) As meson relies on Python, which has unstable APIs, which breaks
from time to time, it seems a lot less reliable than
configure.ac, which relies on a lot more stable language (m4).
> diff --git a/README.md b/README.md
> index a2322c6e3af3..a4ff7511390b 100644
> --- a/README.md
> +++ b/README.md
> @@ -18,6 +18,10 @@ There is also a wiki page for the v4l-utils:
>
> ## Building
>
> +Temporarily, both meson and autotools build systems are supported in parallel.
> +*NOTE*: Packagers should be aware that autotools support will be dropped soon,
> +to be fully replaced by meson.
> +
NAK to drop autotools. Even if we would add support for some new
building system that would support in-tree build (cmake would be
a better option, IMHO), autotools should remain the main building
system for at least a couple of years, in order for us to be sure
that it would work properly and that people will start dominating
the new way.
Thanks,
Mauro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-20 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-17 17:22 [v4l-utils v4 0/5] Add support for meson building Ariel D'Alessandro
2021-03-17 17:22 ` [v4l-utils v4 1/5] Move README to markdown syntax Ariel D'Alessandro
2021-03-17 17:22 ` [v4l-utils v4 2/5] Add support for meson building Ariel D'Alessandro
2021-03-20 16:56 ` Gregor Jasny
2021-03-20 19:32 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2021-03-20 20:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-04-23 22:31 ` Ariel D'Alessandro
2021-04-23 22:34 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-04-23 21:02 ` Ariel D'Alessandro
2021-04-29 2:11 ` Rosen Penev
2021-05-12 13:44 ` Ariel D'Alessandro
2021-03-21 11:16 ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-03-17 17:22 ` [v4l-utils v4 3/5] Copy Doxygen configuration file to doc/ Ariel D'Alessandro
2021-03-17 17:22 ` [v4l-utils v4 4/5] meson: Add support for doxygen documentation Ariel D'Alessandro
2021-03-17 17:22 ` [v4l-utils v4 5/5] Makefile.am: Distribute meson related files Ariel D'Alessandro
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