From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D6AD20330 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2025 05:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1744090332; cv=none; b=jHsQRLiKRPuPKRBkG7LF0wAhFNBssyqw1XhBOtFhXi9m29XckAU3mjQ6ri4D89ju1Tv1W756PjzUI6unY2b42KVtj15+7MsHooVlY/QoHuGXo/kCPwwXNgbX8F1bVAG+B9vNmmaf4p+I/OOTd4ylSY4Bsly7KtyfGbpro5X9LVA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1744090332; c=relaxed/simple; bh=IqjOptwZRCSeZeXlS1DNchDAuzxFH6VUs9W4IbdjPA8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K3cQMQWM8fZCRMTGoa/wDR6WkDKwo5oa6YXZTsnrWldLz2vCekDRE0flXDiUM5SQJCjNDhYL900rSd61CVGRNh46lub/6KnPLkmRFQm+y8JIGskasOgMkRsv9xedzYjddWb8BRNIyhkxFjwJ0OWr8TTlXFVsLNBA/Ge+aE/FAV8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=acBdSL3h; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="acBdSL3h" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18F59C4CEE5; Tue, 8 Apr 2025 05:31:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1744090332; bh=IqjOptwZRCSeZeXlS1DNchDAuzxFH6VUs9W4IbdjPA8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=acBdSL3haDOFLXRiTtmwt8Nrw08PLq8sqZTeIdjb6IRo1rXMF9bYHKKSMNJSH9mu5 PxVGjUF4sCILmy3CgeQ4xtLq5X2AvKqbXViXIy/EAKQL5LfgdBDLcWgH4/XALZAHeh e4lCM/AWbwlukIEJ6jK7qUH9ORJgBZPukuM9fDW+upqKdkBFWPRVaIcIUsFeEw8zmA 2vFKuMii9yPCP5h9p/9DFO4uDXE9qyTcL8U0SufXOZBD6rOvdA7saOmvOQnUm/6AEl biKOMusAmwxWsCFtVFyRfnt0SvCsbg8UBK8fLJP+4ot54XtdAzNFOgyg2jyZxe4/69 M77NWo6EZ24LA== Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:31:42 +0800 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab To: Laurent Pinchart Cc: Hans Verkuil , Linux Media Mailing List , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Sean Young , Sakari Ailus , Sebastian Fricke , Ricardo Ribalda , Nicolas Dufresne , Jacopo Mondi , Niklas =?UTF-8?B?U8O2ZGVy?= =?UTF-8?B?bHVuZA==?= , Tomi Valkeinen , Alain Volmat , "stanimir.k.varbanov@gmail.com" , Bryan O'Donoghue , Dave Stevenson , Daniel Almeida , Michael Tretter , Tomasz Figa , "Hu, Jerry W" , Steve Cho , Kieran Bingham , Kevin Hilman , Paul Kocialkowski , Benjamin Mugnier Subject: Re: [ANN] Registration and Request for Topics for the Media Summit on May 13th in Nice, France Message-ID: <20250408133142.030bd1cf@sal.lan> In-Reply-To: <20250407193909.GA17385@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> References: <044f2fa6-a245-4ae5-b9de-7a2e8831ccd6@xs4all.nl> <20250407193909.GA17385@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.43; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-media@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Em Mon, 7 Apr 2025 22:39:09 +0300 Laurent Pinchart escreveu: > I would like to propose the following topic. > > Review of the status of staging drivers > > We have a set of 11 drivers in drivers/staging/media/, with various > states of maturity and development activity. On a quick look, we have there: 1. source "drivers/staging/media/atomisp/Kconfig" 2. source "drivers/staging/media/av7110/Kconfig" 3. source "drivers/staging/media/imx/Kconfig" 4. source "drivers/staging/media/ipu3/Kconfig" 5. source "drivers/staging/media/max96712/Kconfig" 6. source "drivers/staging/media/meson/vdec/Kconfig" 7. source "drivers/staging/media/rkvdec/Kconfig" 8. source "drivers/staging/media/starfive/Kconfig" 9. source "drivers/staging/media/sunxi/Kconfig" 10. source "drivers/staging/media/tegra-video/Kconfig" 11. source "drivers/staging/media/deprecated/atmel/Kconfig" > drivers/staging/ is not meant as a place for drivers to die, It is, actually: we usually move things there before dropping, because, on most cases, they could be salvaged if someone is interested on it. > we should nudge the relevant > maintainers and consider dropping drivers that show no hope of > progressing. Fully agreed. - Yet, while it makes sense to have action plans for drivers on staging, I don't think that the Media Summit is the best place to discuss, as people that might be involved with them may not be able to participate there. See, there are different situations there, like: - platform drivers: at worse case, those should be removed when the core/DT support for such platform is removed. We removed several such drivers in the past. We can also remove them earlier, if there are reasons for doing that and nobody is complaining; - drivers like atomisp that takes a lot of efforts to be promoted. As long as I see some progress (and we've been seeing progress on every kernel version), I can't see any reason why removing it. - drivers like ipu3, which is for an entire family of PC CPUs. I prefer not dropping drivers like these unless we have very good reasons to do so. On the other hand, we are seeing very little progress on those. Anyway, better to split this into different threads, copying the people involved on the recent changes for such drivers. Regards, Mauro