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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Cc: "Chia-I Wu" <olvaffe@gmail.com>,
	"Liviu Dudau" <liviu.dudau@arm.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] drm/panthor: Driver-wide xxx_[un]lock -> [scoped_]guard replacement
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 17:43:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260520174324.1dfafa0c@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6923c228-b81e-4d02-b59c-a21b2212318e@arm.com>

On Wed, 20 May 2026 16:26:42 +0100
Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com> wrote:

> On 18/05/2026 09:43, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 May 2026 10:09:10 -0700
> > Chia-I Wu <olvaffe@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 6:24 AM Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com> wrote:  
> >>>
> >>> On 13/05/2026 17:58, Boris Brezillon wrote:    
> >>>> Right now panthor is mixed bag of manual locks and guards. Let's
> >>>> make that more consitent and thus encourage new submissions to go
> >>>> for guards.    
> >>>
> >>> I'm fine with encouraging guards for future code - but I'm a little wary
> >>> of a big change like this - it's hard to review it and check that
> >>> everything works the same. And it's a little dubious that the mechanical
> >>> refactoring produces more readable code in some cases.    
> >> I agree with Steven in general, although I am in favor of landing now
> >> that you've gone through the trouble.  
> > 
> > Honestly, I agree with you. The only reason I went for it is
> > because the mix we have right now is pretty confusing. This has to do
> > with the fact the scopes are often loosely defined unless you used
> > scoped_guard(), so it's pretty easy to mess up the lock/unlock
> > ordering. For instance,
> > 
> > 	mutex_lock(locka);
> > 	guard(lockb);
> > 	mutex_unlock(locka);
> > 
> > 	...
> > 
> > once expanded, turns into inconsistent locked sections, where the inner
> > lock (lockb) is released after the outer one (locka).  
> 
> I think that's a good argument for getting all the guard forms available
> before tackling the conversion.

Yep, makes sense. The reason I didn't go for that in v1 is because I
wasn't sure how well the new guard definition would be received. Now
that we know there's a general consensus to define those, I'll re-order
the patches accordingly.

> Mostly I feel like it would be benefit
> from being split up into multiple patches (maybe one per file?) so that
> there are smaller units to review.

Sure, I can do that.

> 
> >>
> >> I also have mixed feelings about some of the non-scoped guards. Their
> >> scopes are extended slightly than before, supposedly to avoid adding
> >> another level of indentation. But other than slightly slower,  
> > 
> > I tried to used scoped_guard()s every where the extra non-guarded
> > section could be CPU heavy (the only bits left are some very simple
> > bit/arithmetic ops, and a couple queue_work() IIRC).
> >   
> >> it also
> >> becomes less clear what exactly do the guards protect.  
> > 
> > I know, and I have pretty much the same feeling, but we've crossed that
> > bridge when we started accepting non-scoped guard()s, unfortunately.  
> 
> The problem with scoped guards is the extra level of indentation.

Yep.

> Personally I find a mixture of all three is appropriate depending on the
> case.
> 
> E.g.
> 
> int small_simple_function() {
> 	if (simple_condition)
> 		return early;
> 
> 	guard(lock);
> 
> 	if (condition_that_needs_lock)
> 		return early;
> 	/* more work */
> 	return late;
> }
> 
> Here it's easy to reason because the lock is just held for the duration
> of the function after the initial early-out condition is checked.
> 
> int short_lock() {
> 	/* bunch of work */
> 
> 	scoped_guard(lock) {
> 		tmp = read_value();
> 		if (tmp == 42)
> 			return -ESOLONGANDTHANKSFORALLTHEFISH;
> 		tmp++;
> 		write_value(tmp);
> 	}
> 
> 	/* more work */
> }
> 
> Here there's a small section of code which is working on the lock, so it
> makes sense to indent it to show the boundaries of it. The other nice
> thing is that the error return handles the locks for us.
> 
> int old_fashioned() {
> 	if (lock_required)
> 		mutex_lock(lock);
> 
> 	/* some work */
> 
> 	if (lock_required)
> 		mutex_unlock(lock);
> }
> 
> Generally a pattern to be avoided if possible,

Yeah, honestly I try my best to never end up with that sort of
conditional locks.

> but IMHO this is much
> better than the equivalent of:
> 
> int dodgy_function() {
> 	/* some work */
> }
> 
> int outer_function() {
> 	if (lock_required) {
> 		scoped_guard(lock)
> 			dodgy_function();
> 	} else {
> 		dodgy_function();
> 	}
> }

If I were to choose, I'd probably go for this version, but luckily we
don't seem to have this conditional-locking pattern in panthor.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-20 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-13 16:58 [PATCH 0/6] drm/panthor: Use guards Boris Brezillon
2026-05-13 16:58 ` [PATCH 1/6] drm/panthor: Driver-wide xxx_[un]lock -> [scoped_]guard replacement Boris Brezillon
2026-05-14 13:16   ` Steven Price
2026-05-14 17:09     ` Chia-I Wu
2026-05-18  8:43       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-20 15:26         ` Steven Price
2026-05-20 15:43           ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2026-05-18  8:57     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-18 23:50       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Chia-I Wu
2026-05-13 16:58 ` [PATCH 2/6] dma-resv: Define guards for context-less dma_resv locks Boris Brezillon
2026-05-14 18:23   ` Chia-I Wu
2026-05-18  7:10   ` Christian König
2026-05-18  9:14     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-18 12:18       ` Christian König
2026-05-18 14:15         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-21  8:36           ` Christian König
2026-05-21  8:54             ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-21  9:01               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-20 15:26   ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 16:58 ` [PATCH 3/6] drm: Define a conditional guard for drm_dev_{enter,exit}() Boris Brezillon
2026-05-14 18:34   ` Chia-I Wu
2026-05-18  8:28     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-18  9:16       ` Christian König
2026-05-18  9:35         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-13 16:58 ` [PATCH 4/6] drm/panthor: Use guards for resv locking Boris Brezillon
2026-05-14 18:35   ` Chia-I Wu
2026-05-13 16:58 ` [PATCH 5/6] drm/panthor: Use the drm_dev_access guard Boris Brezillon
2026-05-14 18:36   ` Chia-I Wu
2026-05-13 16:58 ` [PATCH 6/6] drm/panthor: Add a new guard for our custom resume_and_get() PM helper Boris Brezillon
2026-05-14 18:39   ` Chia-I Wu

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