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Message-ID: <20260715193228.758ab2be@robin> In-Reply-To: <20260715202808.GN1778116@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> References: <20260710083845.23c753ca@foz.lan> <87wlv2jq4t.fsf@linux.dev> <20260713095538.3d5e86f1@foz.lan> <20260713094120.GD1127719@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260713220427.582b28bf@foz.lan> <7ia4mrvtrxjl.fsf@castle.c.googlers.com> <20260715005909.GF1656185@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715161111.GC1778116@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> <20260715202808.GN1778116@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.4.0 (GTK 3.24.52; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-media@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Stat-Signature: z9geae9d9fykme9j8ghttigqbddb9i96 X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout08 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3423E2E X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX19AVtnCvV/5fP2akHDaFab32uuFwkXJPw4= X-HE-Tag: 1784158359-649090 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX18mtIvdrR3HdVoDJ2m7OkTNVt1yW5oVwVgfPLbpz9qMRrzDa8Adxwpxnq7Ri5j3H2DSIHgaQ0XT/EuLoRoleuuCNon4iSSizDq2xIY9kImTac/yow0naHLdWr/4y5kyvgCcz8qIWbmGwqxTmiBAy1wEt6yZBjilLODtHFd6eCsxbhD68Pl6Qtqil5EeP+0czJipoEvLQEgoprImu9bYtJTD+eUUT7OWjCBdXHEwlxYJA77PNPyO9z8hir8cM2jglaWyRW8h4sQOX9EQLa7/A6V9ccouZs43u94Ga5W1K0YDD2Y5Do6PQYkgyF9Eykvsz9T/kG0SmQLnmpPUNQSyDAoMUE3sbXDGLYwQKV+e1G6SoALp86c+cksp On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 23:28:08 +0300 Laurent Pinchart wrote: > I feel that justifying myself against generative AI hallucinations that > are blindly trusted by maintainers makes me feel diminished as a human. I like to read the Sashiko reviews and look for issues with it. This is why I *want* the email to the mailing list. It's so much easier to reply to the Sashiko review in an email and point out where it's just wrong and point out what I want the author of the patch to fix. I've been using the "copy" icon to paste the reviews in emails back to the author[*]. > > No later than yesterday a friend of mine pointed me to a mail thread > where sashiko referenced code that has never existed in the kernel, and > the maintainer blindly trusted the comment and asked the patch author to > fix that issue, seemingly doubling down when told the code didn't exist. This looks to me as a issue with a maintainer needing to be educated about AI tooling. Just like I get AI slop and need to tell people the AI is wrong, we need to look at maintainers to keep them from getting lazy and just accepting what the AI review says. -- Steve [*] Roman, the paste from the copy icon appears to remove blank lines. This makes the output difficult to read as everything is bunched together. I typically go through and manually add back those blank lines. Is this a known issue? Can it be fixed? Of course, if I now have Sashiko replying to the tracing mailing list, I may not need to use that feature anymore.