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From: Tomasz Figa <t.figa@samsung.com>
To: Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>
Cc: Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene.kim@samsung.com>,
	"patches@linaro.org" <patches@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>,
	DRI mailing list <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, myungjoo.ham@samsung.com,
	Vikas Sajjan <vikas.sajjan@linaro.org>,
	linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	khilman@deeprootsystems.com, rjw@sisk.pl
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] drm/exynos: prepare FIMD clocks
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:37:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2218256.k8DNv9nCJl@amdc1227> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51750E43.1050602@samsung.com>

On Monday 22 of April 2013 12:17:39 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> On 04/22/2013 12:03 PM, Inki Dae wrote:
> >     > Also looks good to me. But what if power domain was disabled without
> >     > pm
> >     > runtime? In this case, you must enable the power domain at machine
> >     > code or
> >     > bootloader somewhere. This way would not only need some hard codes
> >     > to turn
> >     > the power domain on but also not manage power management fully. This
> >     > is same as only the use of pm runtime interface(needing some hard
> >     > codes without pm runtime) so I don't prefer to add
> >     > clk_enable/disable to fimd probe(). I quite tend to force only the
> >     > use of pm runtime as possible. So please add the hard codes to
> >     > machine code or bootloader like you did for power domain if you
> >     > want to use drm fimd without pm runtime.
> >     
> >     That's not how the runtime PM, clock subsystems work:
> >     
> >     1) When CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME is disabled, all the used hardware must be
> >     kept
> >     powered on all the time.
> >     
> >     2) Common Clock Framework will always gate all clocks that have zero
> >     enable_count. Note that CCF support for Exynos is already merged for
> >     3.10 and it will be the only available clock support method for
> >     Exynos.
> >     
> >     AFAIK, drivers must work correctly in both cases, with
> >     CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME
> >     enabled and disabled.
> > 
> > Then is the driver worked correctly if the power domain to this device was
> > disabled at bootloader without CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME and with clk_enable()?  I
> > think, in this case, the device wouldn't be worked correctly because the
> > power of the device remains off. So you must enable the power domain
> > somewhere. What is the difference between these two cases?
> 
> How about making the driver dependant on PM_RUNTIME and making it always
> use pm_runtime_* API, regardless if the platform actually implements runtime
> PM or not ? Is there any issue in using the Runtime PM core always, rather
> than coding any workarounds in drivers when PM_RUNTIME is disabled ?

I don't think this is a good idea. This would mean that any user that from 
some reasons don't want to use PM_RUNTIME, would not be able to use the driver 
anymore.

Rafael, Kevin, do you have any opinion on this?

Best regards,
-- 
Tomasz Figa
Samsung Poland R&D Center
SW Solution Development, Kernel and System Framework


  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-22 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-08 11:07 [PATCH v4] drm/exynos: prepare FIMD clocks Vikas Sajjan
2013-04-08 11:11 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-04-21 10:26   ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]     ` <CAAQKjZOg+H=Dnd3HWEWKjQq6e2UGZvX6s0waBdqsxx=CEAXtQw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-21 14:43       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-04-22  5:14         ` Viresh Kumar
2013-04-22  9:56           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-04-22 10:05             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-22 12:30               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-04-22 10:26             ` Viresh Kumar
     [not found]         ` <CAAQKjZPrk6L=RmpywPgmiah+gtBgKOfsFdJLt7cfefyU76A80A@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-22  9:52           ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]             ` <CAAQKjZPT8pMQtY4ud=mMwgw7MYGf-JdqXePCt=yvcNcM1XgxoA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-22 10:17               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-04-22 10:37                 ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2013-04-22 11:42                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <CAAQKjZOpuPw6XZJj198uwJ-WsBHwK6oSKHfYz5zoNivVcbwQng@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-23 11:51                       ` myungjoo.ham

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