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From: Janusz Krzysztofik <jmkrzyszt@gmail.com>
To: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>
Cc: mchehab@kernel.org, hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl,
	sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com, laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org>,
	niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se,
	kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com, dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com,
	hyun.kwon@xilinx.com, robert.jarzmik@free.fr,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Janusz Krzysztofik <jmkrzyszt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 01/10] media: v4l2-subdev: Introduce [get|set]_mbus_config pad ops
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 01:23:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22470298.ouqheUzb2q@z50> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200717072018.crgmvfrm44kgmvcb@uno.localdomain>

Hi Jacopo,

On Friday, July 17, 2020 9:20:18 A.M. CEST Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> Hi Janusz,
>   thanks for review
> 
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:15:27AM +0200, Janusz Krzysztofik wrote:
> > Hi Jacopo,
> >
> > On Thursday, July 16, 2020 4:27:04 P.M. CEST Jacopo Mondi wrote:
> > > Introduce two new pad operations to allow retrieving and configuring the
> > > media bus parameters on a subdevice pad.
> > >
> > > The newly introduced operations aims to replace the s/g_mbus_config video
> > > operations, which have been on their way for deprecation since a long
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org>
> > > ---
> > >  include/media/v4l2-subdev.h | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/media/v4l2-subdev.h b/include/media/v4l2-subdev.h
> > > index f7fe78a6f65a..d8b9d5735307 100644
> > > --- a/include/media/v4l2-subdev.h
> > > +++ b/include/media/v4l2-subdev.h
> > > @@ -670,6 +670,29 @@ struct v4l2_subdev_pad_config {
> > >   *
> > >   * @set_frame_desc: set the low level media bus frame parameters, @fd array
> > >   *                  may be adjusted by the subdev driver to device capabilities.
> > > + *
> > > + * @get_mbus_config: get the media bus configuration of a remote sub-device.
> > > + *		     The media bus configuration is usually retrieved from the
> > > + *		     firmware interface at sub-device probe time, immediately
> > > + *		     applied to the hardware and eventually adjusted by the
> > > + *		     driver. Remote sub-devices (usually video receivers) shall
> > > + *		     use this operation to query the transmitting end bus
> > > + *		     configuration in order to adjust their own one accordingly.
> > > + *		     Callers should make sure they get the most up-to-date as
> > > + *		     possible configuration from the remote end, likely calling
> > > + *		     this operation as close as possible to stream on time. The
> > > + *		     operation shall fail if the pad index it has been called on
> > > + *		     is not valid.
> > > + *
> > > + * @set_mbus_config: set the media bus configuration of a remote sub-device.
> > > + *		     This operations is intended to allow, in combination with
> > > + *		     the get_mbus_config operation, the negotiation of media bus
> > > + *		     configuration parameters between media sub-devices. The
> > > + *		     operation shall not fail if the requested configuration is
> > > + *		     not supported, but the driver shall update the content of
> > > + *		     the %config argument to reflect what has been actually
> > > + *		     applied to the hardware. The operation shall fail if the
> > > + *		     pad index it has been called on is not valid.
> 
> First of all, Hans sent a pull request for this series yesterday. Are
> you ok with that and with sending patches on top, or do you think the
> inclusion of the series should be post-poned ? (you can imagine what
> my preference is :)
> 
> >
> > Could this description also clarify what results are expected in case of
> > hardware errors?  The ov6650 implementation you propose may suggest such
> > errors may be expected to be ignored silently as long as current configuration
> > can be successfully obtained from hardware and passed back to the caller.
> 
> I guess "it depends"(tm)
> I know this doesn't sound like a good answer :)
> 
> A failure in applying or reading register likely means the driver is
> trying to access the hardware while it is in low power state. In this
> case I would consider this a driver bug, as it should try to be smart
> and cache settings and apply them at the proper time and return the
> current configuration, which should be cached as well.
> 
> Of course things could go wrong for several reasons, and in the case
> if any unexpected error occurs I think an error is expected to be
> reported. Please note that this v7 of ov6650 does that by returning
> the return value of ov6650_get_mbus_config() at the end of
> ov6650_set_mbus_config.

Current configuration is not cached in your implementation proposed for ov6650.  
If it was, would ov6650_set_mbus_config() always succeed, just passing it back 
updated with successful writes and ignoring write errors?  In other words, 
is this the expected behavior of .set_mbus_config() to always treat 
unsuccessful writes as recoverable errors and never report them to the caller 
as long as there is a current configuration available that can passed back?

Thanks,
Janusz

> 
> I guess this is pretty regular behaviour, although I missed it in the
> previous version, so it might be worth adding an additional line to
> the documentation.
>
> >
> > Moreover, since validity of the pad argument is expected to be verified, I
> > think this should be handled by the media infrastructure layer with the
> > drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c:check_pad() helper called from a
> > .set_mbus_config() wrapper added to v4l2_subdev_call_pad_wrappers, freeing
> > drivers from reimplementing it.
> >
> 
> Good point, and indeed my bad as I thought v4l2_subdev_call() would
> already do that by default, but looking at the actual implementation a
> wrapper might be a good idea indeed.
> 
> Patches on top ?
> 
> Thanks
>   j
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Janusz
> >
> > >   */
> > >  struct v4l2_subdev_pad_ops {
> > >  	int (*init_cfg)(struct v4l2_subdev *sd,
> > > @@ -710,6 +733,10 @@ struct v4l2_subdev_pad_ops {
> > >  			      struct v4l2_mbus_frame_desc *fd);
> > >  	int (*set_frame_desc)(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, unsigned int pad,
> > >  			      struct v4l2_mbus_frame_desc *fd);
> > > +	int (*get_mbus_config)(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, unsigned int pad,
> > > +			       struct v4l2_mbus_config *config);
> > > +	int (*set_mbus_config)(struct v4l2_subdev *sd, unsigned int pad,
> > > +			       struct v4l2_mbus_config *config);
> > >  };
> > >
> > >  /**
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-17 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-16 14:27 [PATCH v7 00/10] v4l2-subdev: Introduce [g|s]et_mbus_format pad op Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] media: v4l2-subdev: Introduce [get|set]_mbus_config pad ops Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 22:15   ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2020-07-17  7:20     ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-17  7:57       ` Hans Verkuil
2020-07-17 23:23       ` Janusz Krzysztofik [this message]
2020-07-20 15:56         ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-20 19:04           ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2020-07-21  7:27             ` Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-21  7:28               ` Hans Verkuil
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] media: i2c: Use the new get_mbus_config pad op Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] media: i2c: ov6650: Use new [get|set]_mbus_config ops Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] media: pxa_camera: Use the new set_mbus_config op Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] media: v4l2-subdev: Remove [s|g]_mbus_config video ops Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] media: v4l2- mediabus: Add usage note for V4L2_MBUS_* Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] staging: media: imx: Update TODO entry Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] media: i2c: adv748x: Adjust TXA data lanes number Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 09/10] media: i2c: adv748x: Implement get_mbus_config Jacopo Mondi
2020-07-16 14:27 ` [PATCH v7 10/10] media: rcar-csi2: Negotiate data lanes number Jacopo Mondi

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