HVR-950Q status

HVR-950Q status

[Jon Burford]

Howdy.

I recently (foolishly?) purchased a Haupaugge HVR-950Q USB dongle.  I am running Ubuntu 8.10 and after noticing it needed firmware, I downloaded it from  http://steventoth.net/linux/xc5000/HVR-12x0-14x0-17x0_1_25_25271_WHQL.zip.  I gleefully saw the following in /var/log/messages:


Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   11.771891] au0828 driver loaded
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.128977] au0828: i2c bus registered
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.227876] tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 72001, rev B3F0, serial# 5299599
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.227880] tveeprom 0-0050: MAC address is 00-0D-FE-50-DD-8F
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.227883] tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Xceive XC5000 (idx 150, type 4)
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.227886] tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) ATSC/DVB Digital (eeprom 0x88)
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.227889] tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is AU8522 (idx 44)
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.227891] tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is AU8522 (idx 42)
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.227893] tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has IR receiver, has no IR transmitter
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.227895] hauppauge_eeprom: hauppauge eeprom: model=72001
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.500444] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.534166] hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC883, trying auto-probe from BIOS...
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.567486] HDA Intel 0000:04:00.1: PCI INT B -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.583762] xc5000: Successfully identified at address 0x61
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.583765] xc5000: Firmware has not been loaded previously
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.583767] DVB: registering new adapter (au0828)
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.583770] DVB: registering frontend 0 (Auvitek AU8522 QAM/8VSB Frontend)...
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.583982] Registered device AU0828 [Hauppauge HVR950Q]
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.592279] usbcore: registered new interface driver au0828
Feb  5 22:03:10 prospector kernel: [   12.592363] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
....
Feb  5 22:03:19 prospector kernel: [   28.851400] xc5000: waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-xc5000-1.1.fw)...
Feb  5 22:03:19 prospector kernel: [   28.851405] firmware: requesting dvb-fe-xc5000-1.1.fw
Feb  5 22:03:19 prospector kernel: [   28.895429] xc5000: firmware read 12332 bytes.
Feb  5 22:03:19 prospector kernel: [   28.895432] xc5000: firmware upload


I look in /dev/dvb and I see goodies:

jj@prospector:~$ ls -l /dev/dvb/adapter0/
total 0
crw-rw----+ 1 root video 212, 4 2009-02-05 22:03 demux0
crw-rw----+ 1 root video 212, 5 2009-02-05 22:03 dvr0
crw-rw----+ 1 root video 212, 3 2009-02-05 22:03 frontend0
crw-rw----+ 1 root video 212, 7 2009-02-05 22:03 net0


This is where the fun ended.  I banged my head on VLC, MythTV, me-tv, tvtime, vdr and others to no avail.  A little digging in the lists seemed to suggest I might be able to bring in over the air stations.  But my hope is to bring in analog NTSC cable channels and (gasp), possibly even Clear QAM HD channels.  Is there any hope or current effort to get analog NTSC working on this dongle?  Also, are there any USB dongles which support HD Clear QAM?  While I am primarily interested in analog NTSC (yeah, I hear ya, shoulda bought an HVR-950), getting analog and Clear QAM HD would be great.  While I would love to get my HVR-950Q working, I would settle for another well supported USB dongle with at least analog cable support that in known to work well with MythTV.

Thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide.

Regards,
Jon

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Re: HVR-950Q status

[Steven Toth]

> This is where the fun ended.  I banged my head on VLC, MythTV, me-tv, tvtime, vdr and others to no avail.  A little digging in the lists seemed to suggest I might be able to bring in over the air stations.  But my hope is to bring in analog NTSC cable channels and (gasp), possibly even Clear QAM HD channels.  Is there any hope or current effort to get analog NTSC working on this dongle?  Also, are there any USB dongles which support HD Clear QAM?  While I am primarily interested in analog NTSC (yeah, I hear ya, shoulda bought an HVR-950), getting analog and Clear QAM HD would be great.  While I would love to get my HVR-950Q working, I would settle for another well supported USB dongle with at least analog cable support that in known to work well with MythTV.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide.
> 
> Regards,
> Jon

NTSC is not supported.

The 950Q works well with MythTV for ATSC and ClearQAM. I suggest you google or 
read the wikis at linuxtv.org. You might also want to check on linux support for 
any new product before purchasing and 'banging your head'.

- Steve




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Re: HVR-950Q status

[Devin Heitmueller]

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org> wrote:
>
>> This is where the fun ended.  I banged my head on VLC, MythTV, me-tv,
>> tvtime, vdr and others to no avail.  A little digging in the lists seemed to
>> suggest I might be able to bring in over the air stations.  But my hope is
>> to bring in analog NTSC cable channels and (gasp), possibly even Clear QAM
>> HD channels.  Is there any hope or current effort to get analog NTSC working
>> on this dongle?  Also, are there any USB dongles which support HD Clear QAM?
>>  While I am primarily interested in analog NTSC (yeah, I hear ya, shoulda
>> bought an HVR-950), getting analog and Clear QAM HD would be great.  While I
>> would love to get my HVR-950Q working, I would settle for another well
>> supported USB dongle with at least analog cable support that in known to
>> work well with MythTV.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jon
>
> NTSC is not supported.
>
> The 950Q works well with MythTV for ATSC and ClearQAM. I suggest you google
> or read the wikis at linuxtv.org. You might also want to check on linux
> support for any new product before purchasing and 'banging your head'.
>
> - Steve

To expand on Steven's comments, the following page has the list of
supported USB devices:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices#Supported_ATSC_USB_Devices

Pay particular attention to the entries with footnote #1, which are
devices such as the 950Q where the hardware supports analog but the
driver does not.  This is actually a pretty common problem with the
newer class of devices that support ClearQAM.

Regards,

Devin


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Re: HVR-950Q status

[Robert Krakora]

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org> wrote:
>
>> This is where the fun ended.  I banged my head on VLC, MythTV, me-tv,
>> tvtime, vdr and others to no avail.  A little digging in the lists seemed to
>> suggest I might be able to bring in over the air stations.  But my hope is
>> to bring in analog NTSC cable channels and (gasp), possibly even Clear QAM
>> HD channels.  Is there any hope or current effort to get analog NTSC working
>> on this dongle?  Also, are there any USB dongles which support HD Clear QAM?
>>  While I am primarily interested in analog NTSC (yeah, I hear ya, shoulda
>> bought an HVR-950), getting analog and Clear QAM HD would be great.  While I
>> would love to get my HVR-950Q working, I would settle for another well
>> supported USB dongle with at least analog cable support that in known to
>> work well with MythTV.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jon
>
> NTSC is not supported.
>
> The 950Q works well with MythTV for ATSC and ClearQAM. I suggest you google
> or read the wikis at linuxtv.org. You might also want to check on linux
> support for any new product before purchasing and 'banging your head'.
>
> - Steve
>
>
>
>
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Jon:

I too ran into this problem when purchasing what I thought was an
HVR950.  I bought several of what I thought were HVR950 and I ended up
getting both HVR950 and HVR950Q parts in the same packaging.  After
further investigation, the folks at Hauppauge explained the reason
behind packaging the HVR950Q as an HVR950.  I do not want to
miss-quote them, so please call them if you want the explanation.
They are very "up-front".  HVR950Q analog works quite well on Windows
machines though I do prefer and almost exclusively only build Linux
machines.  With all due respect to Hauppauge, KWorld makes a part call
the KWorld 330U that is basically an HVR950 with a slightly different
front end.  However, it cannot do QAM256 (Clear QAM) but it works very
well for 8VSB (ATSC) and NTSC.

New Egg has them for only $50.  Ignore the reviews, this is a good
part.  It is not listed as supported yet only because we have not
fully tested the analog video and audio inputs.  Please get the latest
V4L code from the tree at www.linuxtv.org.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260006&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Devices+++TV+Tuners-_-Kworld+Computer+Co.+Ltd-_-15260006

Best Regards,

Software Engineer
MessageNet Systems
101 East Carmel Dr. Suite 105
Carmel, IN 46032
(317)566-1677 Ext. 206
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Re: HVR-950Q status

[Robert Krakora]

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Robert Krakora
<rob.krakora@messagenetsystems.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org> wrote:
>>
>>> This is where the fun ended.  I banged my head on VLC, MythTV, me-tv,
>>> tvtime, vdr and others to no avail.  A little digging in the lists seemed to
>>> suggest I might be able to bring in over the air stations.  But my hope is
>>> to bring in analog NTSC cable channels and (gasp), possibly even Clear QAM
>>> HD channels.  Is there any hope or current effort to get analog NTSC working
>>> on this dongle?  Also, are there any USB dongles which support HD Clear QAM?
>>>  While I am primarily interested in analog NTSC (yeah, I hear ya, shoulda
>>> bought an HVR-950), getting analog and Clear QAM HD would be great.  While I
>>> would love to get my HVR-950Q working, I would settle for another well
>>> supported USB dongle with at least analog cable support that in known to
>>> work well with MythTV.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jon
>>
>> NTSC is not supported.
>>
>> The 950Q works well with MythTV for ATSC and ClearQAM. I suggest you google
>> or read the wikis at linuxtv.org. You might also want to check on linux
>> support for any new product before purchasing and 'banging your head'.
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Jon:
>
> I too ran into this problem when purchasing what I thought was an
> HVR950.  I bought several of what I thought were HVR950 and I ended up
> getting both HVR950 and HVR950Q parts in the same packaging.  After
> further investigation, the folks at Hauppauge explained the reason
> behind packaging the HVR950Q as an HVR950.  I do not want to
> miss-quote them, so please call them if you want the explanation.
> They are very "up-front".  HVR950Q analog works quite well on Windows
> machines though I do prefer and almost exclusively only build Linux
> machines.  With all due respect to Hauppauge, KWorld makes a part call
> the KWorld 330U that is basically an HVR950 with a slightly different
> front end.  However, it cannot do QAM256 (Clear QAM) but it works very
> well for 8VSB (ATSC) and NTSC.
>
> New Egg has them for only $50.  Ignore the reviews, this is a good
> part.  It is not listed as supported yet only because we have not
> fully tested the analog video and audio inputs.  Please get the latest
> V4L code from the tree at www.linuxtv.org.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260006&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Devices+++TV+Tuners-_-Kworld+Computer+Co.+Ltd-_-15260006
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Software Engineer
> MessageNet Systems
> 101 East Carmel Dr. Suite 105
> Carmel, IN 46032
> (317)566-1677 Ext. 206
> (317)663-0808 Fax
>

Sorry for the poor grammar...I am a bit "under the weather" and it is
hard for me to type on the couch...:-(

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Re: HVR-950Q status

[Devin Heitmueller]

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Robert Krakora
<rob.krakora@messagenetsystems.com> wrote:
> Jon:
>
> I too ran into this problem when purchasing what I thought was an
> HVR950.  I bought several of what I thought were HVR950 and I ended up
> getting both HVR950 and HVR950Q parts in the same packaging.  After
> further investigation, the folks at Hauppauge explained the reason
> behind packaging the HVR950Q as an HVR950.  I do not want to
> miss-quote them, so please call them if you want the explanation.
> They are very "up-front".  HVR950Q analog works quite well on Windows
> machines though I do prefer and almost exclusively only build Linux
> machines.  With all due respect to Hauppauge, KWorld makes a part call
> the KWorld 330U that is basically an HVR950 with a slightly different
> front end.  However, it cannot do QAM256 (Clear QAM) but it works very
> well for 8VSB (ATSC) and NTSC.
>
> New Egg has them for only $50.  Ignore the reviews, this is a good
> part.  It is not listed as supported yet only because we have not
> fully tested the analog video and audio inputs.  Please get the latest
> V4L code from the tree at www.linuxtv.org.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260006&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Devices+++TV+Tuners-_-Kworld+Computer+Co.+Ltd-_-15260006
>
> Best Regards,

Robert,

Just to be clear, the user is also looking for ClearQAM, for which the
KWorld 330U does not support.

Devin


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Re: HVR-950Q status

[Robert Krakora]

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Devin Heitmueller
<devin.heitmueller@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Robert Krakora
> <rob.krakora@messagenetsystems.com> wrote:
>> Jon:
>>
>> I too ran into this problem when purchasing what I thought was an
>> HVR950.  I bought several of what I thought were HVR950 and I ended up
>> getting both HVR950 and HVR950Q parts in the same packaging.  After
>> further investigation, the folks at Hauppauge explained the reason
>> behind packaging the HVR950Q as an HVR950.  I do not want to
>> miss-quote them, so please call them if you want the explanation.
>> They are very "up-front".  HVR950Q analog works quite well on Windows
>> machines though I do prefer and almost exclusively only build Linux
>> machines.  With all due respect to Hauppauge, KWorld makes a part call
>> the KWorld 330U that is basically an HVR950 with a slightly different
>> front end.  However, it cannot do QAM256 (Clear QAM) but it works very
>> well for 8VSB (ATSC) and NTSC.
>>
>> New Egg has them for only $50.  Ignore the reviews, this is a good
>> part.  It is not listed as supported yet only because we have not
>> fully tested the analog video and audio inputs.  Please get the latest
>> V4L code from the tree at www.linuxtv.org.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815260006&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Devices+++TV+Tuners-_-Kworld+Computer+Co.+Ltd-_-15260006
>>
>> Best Regards,
>
> Robert,
>
> Just to be clear, the user is also looking for ClearQAM, for which the
> KWorld 330U does not support.
>
> Devin
>
>
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>
>

Devin:

Darn.  Why do people still want analog?  :-)  Sorry, I did not read
far enough down in to his e-mail.  :-(  Dude, when are you going to be
back on line?  Are part of the Secret Service Detail that guards the
president or something?

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