[linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

Dear all,

I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.

Here are the options I'm using
tuner : port2=0
saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
saa7134-oss: rate=48000

# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
r8169                  17360  0
e100                   23556  0
cx8802                 10372  0
firmware_class          4032  0
cx2341x                 8516  0
cx8800                 19256  0
cx88xx                 49636  2 cx8802,cx8800
i2c_algo_bit            3908  1 cx88xx
tveeprom               11472  1 cx88xx
btcx_risc               2376  3 cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx
saa7134_oss             9416  0
saa7134_empress         4292  0
saa6752hs               7180  0
saa7134                95820  2 saa7134_oss,saa7134_empress
video_buf              13444  6 
cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_oss,saa7134_empress,saa7134
compat_ioctl32           512  2 cx8800,saa7134
ir_kbd_i2c              3856  1 saa7134
ir_common              22788  3 cx88xx,saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c
videodev               22464  4 cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_empress,saa7134
v4l1_compat            12100  2 saa7134,videodev
tuner                  48424  0
v4l2_common            11392  7 
cx2341x,cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_empress,saa7134,videodev,tuner
hwmon_vid               1856  0
via686a                 8328  0
i2c_isa                 1408  1 via686a
i2c_core               12560  9 
cx88xx,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,saa6752hs,saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c,tuner,via686a,i2c_isa
ipt_REJECT              2048  3
iptable_filter           960  1
ip_tables               7176  1 iptable_filter


With this I have sound only when selecting SVideo or Composite input, 
but not when in tuner mode. Anyone has a clue ?

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CAND Frederic
Product Manager
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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

Frederic CAND a écrit :
> Dear all,
> 
> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
> 
> Here are the options I'm using
> tuner : port2=0
> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
> 
> # lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> r8169                  17360  0
> e100                   23556  0
> cx8802                 10372  0
> firmware_class          4032  0
> cx2341x                 8516  0
> cx8800                 19256  0
> cx88xx                 49636  2 cx8802,cx8800
> i2c_algo_bit            3908  1 cx88xx
> tveeprom               11472  1 cx88xx
> btcx_risc               2376  3 cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx
> saa7134_oss             9416  0
> saa7134_empress         4292  0
> saa6752hs               7180  0
> saa7134                95820  2 saa7134_oss,saa7134_empress
> video_buf              13444  6 
> cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_oss,saa7134_empress,saa7134
> compat_ioctl32           512  2 cx8800,saa7134
> ir_kbd_i2c              3856  1 saa7134
> ir_common              22788  3 cx88xx,saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c
> videodev               22464  4 cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_empress,saa7134
> v4l1_compat            12100  2 saa7134,videodev
> tuner                  48424  0
> v4l2_common            11392  7 
> cx2341x,cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_empress,saa7134,videodev,tuner
> hwmon_vid               1856  0
> via686a                 8328  0
> i2c_isa                 1408  1 via686a
> i2c_core               12560  9 
> cx88xx,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,saa6752hs,saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c,tuner,via686a,i2c_isa
> ipt_REJECT              2048  3
> iptable_filter           960  1
> ip_tables               7176  1 iptable_filter
> 
> 
> With this I have sound only when selecting SVideo or Composite input, 
> but not when in tuner mode. Anyone has a clue ?
> 

I'm using kernel 2.6.22.19, btw

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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[hermann pitton]

Hi Frederic,

Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
> Dear all,
> 
> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
> 
> Here are the options I'm using
> tuner : port2=0
> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
> saa7134-oss: rate=48000

the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
conditions.

You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.

The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.

If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.

After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.

Cheers,
Hermann

> # lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> r8169                  17360  0
> e100                   23556  0
> cx8802                 10372  0
> firmware_class          4032  0
> cx2341x                 8516  0
> cx8800                 19256  0
> cx88xx                 49636  2 cx8802,cx8800
> i2c_algo_bit            3908  1 cx88xx
> tveeprom               11472  1 cx88xx
> btcx_risc               2376  3 cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx
> saa7134_oss             9416  0
> saa7134_empress         4292  0
> saa6752hs               7180  0
> saa7134                95820  2 saa7134_oss,saa7134_empress
> video_buf              13444  6 
> cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_oss,saa7134_empress,saa7134
> compat_ioctl32           512  2 cx8800,saa7134
> ir_kbd_i2c              3856  1 saa7134
> ir_common              22788  3 cx88xx,saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c
> videodev               22464  4 cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_empress,saa7134
> v4l1_compat            12100  2 saa7134,videodev
> tuner                  48424  0
> v4l2_common            11392  7 
> cx2341x,cx8800,cx88xx,saa7134_empress,saa7134,videodev,tuner
> hwmon_vid               1856  0
> via686a                 8328  0
> i2c_isa                 1408  1 via686a
> i2c_core               12560  9 
> cx88xx,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,saa6752hs,saa7134,ir_kbd_i2c,tuner,via686a,i2c_isa
> ipt_REJECT              2048  3
> iptable_filter           960  1
> ip_tables               7176  1 iptable_filter
> 
> 
> With this I have sound only when selecting SVideo or Composite input, 
> but not when in tuner mode. Anyone has a clue ?
> 


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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

hermann pitton a écrit :
> Hi Frederic,
> 
> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
>>
>> Here are the options I'm using
>> tuner : port2=0
>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
> 
> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
> conditions.
> 
> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
> 
> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
> 
> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
> 
> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
> 
> Cheers,
> Hermann

hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
but line in sound with composite and svideo
do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers

I'll let you know if I can make it work

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Product Manager
ANEVIA

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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[hermann pitton]

Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
> hermann pitton a écrit :
> > Hi Frederic,
> > 
> > Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
> >> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
> >> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
> >> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
> >> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
> >>
> >> Here are the options I'm using
> >> tuner : port2=0
> >> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
> >> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
> > 
> > the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
> > sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
> > conditions.
> > 
> > You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
> > 
> > The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
> > 
> > If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
> > should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
> > you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
> > like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
> > 
> > After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
> > such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Hermann
> 
> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
> but line in sound with composite and svideo
> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
> 
> I'll let you know if I can make it work

Ah, you are in France!

Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
introduced.

Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.

The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
tree alsa there.

Cheers,
Hermann



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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

hermann pitton a écrit :
> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>
>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
>>>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
>>>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
>>>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
>>>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the options I'm using
>>>> tuner : port2=0
>>>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
>>>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
>>> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
>>> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
>>> conditions.
>>>
>>> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
>>>
>>> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
>>>
>>> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
>>> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
>>> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
>>> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
>>>
>>> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
>>> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hermann
>> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
>> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
>> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
>> but line in sound with composite and svideo
>> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
>> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
>> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
>> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
>> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
>>
>> I'll let you know if I can make it work
> 
> Ah, you are in France!
yeah!

> 
> Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
> different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
> introduced.
huhu... but my system has to work worldwide ... so a module option is 
not a good idea, because it does not only depends on the country, but 
also if my customer is using a signal modulator or not, ... and I have 
two cards in my system, and I want to be able to select a certain SECAM 
mode with the first one, and another mode with the second card
Actually I'm selecting secam L, DK or BG with an ioctl cause my card can 
handle them (tested and working with older drivers/kernels)


> 
> Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
> you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
> possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
> chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.
> 
> The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
> mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
> sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
> tree alsa there.

Ok I'll see with this rate thing and let you know

> 
> Cheers,
> Hermann
> 
> 
> 
Greetings.

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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

Frederic CAND a écrit :
> hermann pitton a écrit :
>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>>
>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
>>>>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
>>>>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
>>>>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
>>>>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the options I'm using
>>>>> tuner : port2=0
>>>>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
>>>>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
>>>> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
>>>> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
>>>> conditions.
>>>>
>>>> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
>>>>
>>>> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
>>>>
>>>> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
>>>> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
>>>> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
>>>> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
>>>> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Hermann
>>> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
>>> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
>>> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
>>> but line in sound with composite and svideo
>>> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
>>> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
>>> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
>>> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
>>> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
>>>
>>> I'll let you know if I can make it work
>> Ah, you are in France!
> yeah!
> 
>> Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
>> different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
>> introduced.
> huhu... but my system has to work worldwide ... so a module option is 
> not a good idea, because it does not only depends on the country, but 
> also if my customer is using a signal modulator or not, ... and I have 
> two cards in my system, and I want to be able to select a certain SECAM 
> mode with the first one, and another mode with the second card
> Actually I'm selecting secam L, DK or BG with an ioctl cause my card can 
> handle them (tested and working with older drivers/kernels)
> 
> 
>> Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
>> you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
>> possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
>> chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.
>>
>> The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
>> mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
>> sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
>> tree alsa there.
> 
> Ok I'll see with this rate thing and let you know
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Hermann
>>
>>
>>
> Greetings.
> 
I still have nothing with oss and rate=32000, with alsa, or with secam=l
Anyway, some more informations :
* I've got the following error messages on saa7134 module insertion

saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_common_ioctl
saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_boards
saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_register
saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_qops
saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_i2c_call_clients
saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_unregister
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_tvaudio_setmute
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa_dsp_writel
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_alloc
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_build
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_free
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_init
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_exit
saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_set_dmabits
saa7134 ALSA driver for DMA sound loaded
saa7134[0]/alsa: saa7134[0] at 0xe5300000 irq 5 registered as card -1
saa7134[1]/alsa: saa7134[1] at 0xe5301000 irq 9 registered as card -1

* When using audio_debug=1 for saa7134, I've got the following :
saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
input=Television
saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=1 input=Television  =>  mute=1 
input=Television
saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
input=Television

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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

Frederic CAND a écrit :
> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
>>>>>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
>>>>>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
>>>>>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
>>>>>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the options I'm using
>>>>>> tuner : port2=0
>>>>>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
>>>>>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
>>>>> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
>>>>> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
>>>>> conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
>>>>>
>>>>> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
>>>>> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
>>>>> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
>>>>> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
>>>>> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Hermann
>>>> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
>>>> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
>>>> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
>>>> but line in sound with composite and svideo
>>>> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
>>>> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
>>>> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
>>>> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
>>>> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you know if I can make it work
>>> Ah, you are in France!
>> yeah!
>>
>>> Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
>>> different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
>>> introduced.
>> huhu... but my system has to work worldwide ... so a module option is 
>> not a good idea, because it does not only depends on the country, but 
>> also if my customer is using a signal modulator or not, ... and I have 
>> two cards in my system, and I want to be able to select a certain SECAM 
>> mode with the first one, and another mode with the second card
>> Actually I'm selecting secam L, DK or BG with an ioctl cause my card can 
>> handle them (tested and working with older drivers/kernels)
>>
>>
>>> Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
>>> you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
>>> possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
>>> chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.
>>>
>>> The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
>>> mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
>>> sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
>>> tree alsa there.
>> Ok I'll see with this rate thing and let you know
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hermann
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Greetings.
>>
> I still have nothing with oss and rate=32000, with alsa, or with secam=l
> Anyway, some more informations :
> * I've got the following error messages on saa7134 module insertion
> 
> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_common_ioctl
> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_boards
> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_register
> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_qops
> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_i2c_call_clients
> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_unregister
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_tvaudio_setmute
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa_dsp_writel
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_alloc
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_build
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_free
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_init
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_exit
> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_set_dmabits
> saa7134 ALSA driver for DMA sound loaded
> saa7134[0]/alsa: saa7134[0] at 0xe5300000 irq 5 registered as card -1
> saa7134[1]/alsa: saa7134[1] at 0xe5301000 irq 9 registered as card -1
> 
> * When using audio_debug=1 for saa7134, I've got the following :
> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
> input=Television
> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=1 input=Television  =>  mute=1 
> input=Television
> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
> input=Television
> 

Did I mention I'm using 2.6.22.19 ?

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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[hermann pitton]

Am Mittwoch, den 30.04.2008, 16:45 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND: 
> Frederic CAND a écrit :
> > Frederic CAND a écrit :
> >> hermann pitton a écrit :
> >>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
> >>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
> >>>>> Hi Frederic,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
> >>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
> >>>>>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
> >>>>>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
> >>>>>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
> >>>>>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here are the options I'm using
> >>>>>> tuner : port2=0
> >>>>>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
> >>>>>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
> >>>>> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
> >>>>> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
> >>>>> conditions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
> >>>>> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
> >>>>> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
> >>>>> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
> >>>>> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Hermann
> >>>> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
> >>>> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
> >>>> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
> >>>> but line in sound with composite and svideo
> >>>> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
> >>>> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
> >>>> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
> >>>> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
> >>>> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll let you know if I can make it work
> >>> Ah, you are in France!
> >> yeah!
> >>
> >>> Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
> >>> different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
> >>> introduced.
> >> huhu... but my system has to work worldwide ... so a module option is 
> >> not a good idea, because it does not only depends on the country, but 
> >> also if my customer is using a signal modulator or not, ... and I have 
> >> two cards in my system, and I want to be able to select a certain SECAM 
> >> mode with the first one, and another mode with the second card
> >> Actually I'm selecting secam L, DK or BG with an ioctl cause my card can 
> >> handle them (tested and working with older drivers/kernels)
> >>
> >>
> >>> Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
> >>> you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
> >>> possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
> >>> chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.
> >>>
> >>> The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
> >>> mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
> >>> sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
> >>> tree alsa there.
> >> Ok I'll see with this rate thing and let you know
> >>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Hermann
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Greetings.
> >>
> > I still have nothing with oss and rate=32000, with alsa, or with secam=l
> > Anyway, some more informations :
> > * I've got the following error messages on saa7134 module insertion
> > 
> > saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
> > saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_common_ioctl
> > saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_boards
> > saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_register
> > saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_qops
> > saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_i2c_call_clients
> > saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_unregister
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_tvaudio_setmute
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa_dsp_writel
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_alloc
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_build
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_free
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_init
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_exit
> > saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_set_dmabits
> > saa7134 ALSA driver for DMA sound loaded
> > saa7134[0]/alsa: saa7134[0] at 0xe5300000 irq 5 registered as card -1
> > saa7134[1]/alsa: saa7134[1] at 0xe5301000 irq 9 registered as card -1
> > 
> > * When using audio_debug=1 for saa7134, I've got the following :
> > saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
> > saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
> > saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
> > saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
> > saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
> > input=Television
> > saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
> > saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
> > saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
> > saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
> > saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=1 input=Television  =>  mute=1 
> > input=Television
> > saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
> > saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
> > input=Television
> > 
> 
> Did I mention I'm using 2.6.22.19 ?
> 

Hi,

yes, that is the annoying part ;), but still fine, since others have
been already restless on getting support with latest drivers on a
2.4.18 ! without to provide a single line of code themselves ...

This is completely different with you, but we have other issues too.

http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/rev/d6660f8c6dbb

You might try to clean your /media modules and try with that snapshot.
Not compile tested for 2.6.22, but might fit. Click on bz2 or gz on top.

Of course, if not auto detected you can select each TV analog standard
separately for each card you have, but selectable SECAM was new.

Do you have any progress on it or are you seriously asking me to look at
a 2.6.22.19?

You might remember, I'm interested at the point, the encoder gave up.

Cheers,
Hermann






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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

hermann pitton a écrit :
> Am Mittwoch, den 30.04.2008, 16:45 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND: 
>> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>>> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
>>>>>>>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
>>>>>>>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
>>>>>>>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
>>>>>>>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are the options I'm using
>>>>>>>> tuner : port2=0
>>>>>>>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
>>>>>>>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
>>>>>>> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
>>>>>>> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
>>>>>>> conditions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
>>>>>>> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
>>>>>>> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
>>>>>>> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
>>>>>>> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Hermann
>>>>>> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
>>>>>> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
>>>>>> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
>>>>>> but line in sound with composite and svideo
>>>>>> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
>>>>>> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
>>>>>> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
>>>>>> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
>>>>>> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you know if I can make it work
>>>>> Ah, you are in France!
>>>> yeah!
>>>>
>>>>> Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
>>>>> different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
>>>>> introduced.
>>>> huhu... but my system has to work worldwide ... so a module option is 
>>>> not a good idea, because it does not only depends on the country, but 
>>>> also if my customer is using a signal modulator or not, ... and I have 
>>>> two cards in my system, and I want to be able to select a certain SECAM 
>>>> mode with the first one, and another mode with the second card
>>>> Actually I'm selecting secam L, DK or BG with an ioctl cause my card can 
>>>> handle them (tested and working with older drivers/kernels)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
>>>>> you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
>>>>> possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
>>>>> chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
>>>>> mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
>>>>> sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
>>>>> tree alsa there.
>>>> Ok I'll see with this rate thing and let you know
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Hermann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Greetings.
>>>>
>>> I still have nothing with oss and rate=32000, with alsa, or with secam=l
>>> Anyway, some more informations :
>>> * I've got the following error messages on saa7134 module insertion
>>>
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_common_ioctl
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_boards
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_register
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_qops
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_i2c_call_clients
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_unregister
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_tvaudio_setmute
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa_dsp_writel
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_alloc
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_build
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_free
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_init
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_exit
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_set_dmabits
>>> saa7134 ALSA driver for DMA sound loaded
>>> saa7134[0]/alsa: saa7134[0] at 0xe5300000 irq 5 registered as card -1
>>> saa7134[1]/alsa: saa7134[1] at 0xe5301000 irq 9 registered as card -1
>>>
>>> * When using audio_debug=1 for saa7134, I've got the following :
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
>>> input=Television
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=1 input=Television  =>  mute=1 
>>> input=Television
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
>>> input=Television
>>>
>> Did I mention I'm using 2.6.22.19 ?
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yes, that is the annoying part ;), but still fine, since others have
> been already restless on getting support with latest drivers on a
> 2.4.18 ! without to provide a single line of code themselves ...
> 
> This is completely different with you, but we have other issues too.
> 
> http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/rev/d6660f8c6dbb
> 
> You might try to clean your /media modules and try with that snapshot.
> Not compile tested for 2.6.22, but might fit. Click on bz2 or gz on top.
> 

ok, I'll have a look at this asap

> Of course, if not auto detected you can select each TV analog standard
> separately for each card you have, but selectable SECAM was new.
> 
> Do you have any progress on it or are you seriously asking me to look at
> a 2.6.22.19?

My concern is to use any kernel while having full support for my knc tv 
station dvr AND my Hauppauge HVR 1300 ... that is, sound and mpeg 
compression
I was using a 2.6.16.29 'til now, with an old v4l (not v4l-dvb) snapshot 
so ... if I can still use my 2.6.16.29 and have support for my knc and 
my hauppauge within the same system, I'll be the happiest man (changing 
kernel is not an idea we like since by doing that we'll need time to 
test uptime equipments before releasing a new version of our products, ...)

2.6.22.19 is not mandatory but I know some things changed between 2.6.16 
and recent kernels regarding modules (synopsis of some functions 
changed, ...) so adapting a recent snapshot against 2.6.16 might be 
painful ...

> 
> You might remember, I'm interested at the point, the encoder gave up.
> 

huhu, I know that
I'll build 2.6.16 to 2.6.21 kernels this morning to see if my knc have 
sound in any of them with the modules included in the kernels (i.e I 
won't use my 2005 v4l snapshot) and let you know
what do you mean by "the encoder gave up" ?

> Cheers,
> Hermann
> 
Regards



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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

Frederic CAND a écrit :
> hermann pitton a écrit :
>> Am Mittwoch, den 30.04.2008, 16:45 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND: 
>>> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>>>> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
>>>>>>>>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
>>>>>>>>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
>>>>>>>>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
>>>>>>>>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here are the options I'm using
>>>>>>>>> tuner : port2=0
>>>>>>>>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
>>>>>>>>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
>>>>>>>> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
>>>>>>>> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
>>>>>>>> conditions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
>>>>>>>> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
>>>>>>>> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
>>>>>>>> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
>>>>>>>> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Hermann
>>>>>>> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
>>>>>>> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
>>>>>>> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
>>>>>>> but line in sound with composite and svideo
>>>>>>> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
>>>>>>> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
>>>>>>> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
>>>>>>> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
>>>>>>> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll let you know if I can make it work
>>>>>> Ah, you are in France!
>>>>> yeah!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
>>>>>> different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
>>>>>> introduced.
>>>>> huhu... but my system has to work worldwide ... so a module option is 
>>>>> not a good idea, because it does not only depends on the country, but 
>>>>> also if my customer is using a signal modulator or not, ... and I have 
>>>>> two cards in my system, and I want to be able to select a certain SECAM 
>>>>> mode with the first one, and another mode with the second card
>>>>> Actually I'm selecting secam L, DK or BG with an ioctl cause my card can 
>>>>> handle them (tested and working with older drivers/kernels)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
>>>>>> you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
>>>>>> possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
>>>>>> chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
>>>>>> mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
>>>>>> sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
>>>>>> tree alsa there.
>>>>> Ok I'll see with this rate thing and let you know
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Hermann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings.
>>>>>
>>>> I still have nothing with oss and rate=32000, with alsa, or with secam=l
>>>> Anyway, some more informations :
>>>> * I've got the following error messages on saa7134 module insertion
>>>>
>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_common_ioctl
>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_boards
>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_register
>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_qops
>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_i2c_call_clients
>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_unregister
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_tvaudio_setmute
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa_dsp_writel
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_alloc
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_build
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_free
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_init
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_exit
>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_set_dmabits
>>>> saa7134 ALSA driver for DMA sound loaded
>>>> saa7134[0]/alsa: saa7134[0] at 0xe5300000 irq 5 registered as card -1
>>>> saa7134[1]/alsa: saa7134[1] at 0xe5301000 irq 9 registered as card -1
>>>>
>>>> * When using audio_debug=1 for saa7134, I've got the following :
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
>>>> input=Television
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=1 input=Television  =>  mute=1 
>>>> input=Television
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
>>>> input=Television
>>>>
>>> Did I mention I'm using 2.6.22.19 ?
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> yes, that is the annoying part ;), but still fine, since others have
>> been already restless on getting support with latest drivers on a
>> 2.4.18 ! without to provide a single line of code themselves ...
>>
>> This is completely different with you, but we have other issues too.
>>
>> http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/rev/d6660f8c6dbb
>>
>> You might try to clean your /media modules and try with that snapshot.
>> Not compile tested for 2.6.22, but might fit. Click on bz2 or gz on top.
>>
> 
> ok, I'll have a look at this asap
> 
>> Of course, if not auto detected you can select each TV analog standard
>> separately for each card you have, but selectable SECAM was new.
>>
>> Do you have any progress on it or are you seriously asking me to look at
>> a 2.6.22.19?
> 
> My concern is to use any kernel while having full support for my knc tv 
> station dvr AND my Hauppauge HVR 1300 ... that is, sound and mpeg 
> compression
> I was using a 2.6.16.29 'til now, with an old v4l (not v4l-dvb) snapshot 
> so ... if I can still use my 2.6.16.29 and have support for my knc and 
> my hauppauge within the same system, I'll be the happiest man (changing 
> kernel is not an idea we like since by doing that we'll need time to 
> test uptime equipments before releasing a new version of our products, ...)
> 
> 2.6.22.19 is not mandatory but I know some things changed between 2.6.16 
> and recent kernels regarding modules (synopsis of some functions 
> changed, ...) so adapting a recent snapshot against 2.6.16 might be 
> painful ...
> 
>> You might remember, I'm interested at the point, the encoder gave up.
>>
> 
> huhu, I know that
> I'll build 2.6.16 to 2.6.21 kernels this morning to see if my knc have 
> sound in any of them with the modules included in the kernels (i.e I 
> won't use my 2005 v4l snapshot) and let you know

I can't get sound when selecting tuner with drivers included in kernel 
2.6.16.29 ... whether I use alsa or oss
options used :
tda9887: port2=0
saa7134-oss : rate=32000 or rate=48000 (same results)
saa7134: disable_ir=1 oss=1

or
tda9887: port2=0
saa7134: disable_ir=1 alsa=1

I tried without port2=0, same results ...

> what do you mean by "the encoder gave up" ?
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Hermann
>>
> Regards
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

Frederic CAND a écrit :
> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>> Am Mittwoch, den 30.04.2008, 16:45 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND: 
>>>> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>>>>> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>>>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
>>>>>>>>>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
>>>>>>>>>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
>>>>>>>>>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
>>>>>>>>>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here are the options I'm using
>>>>>>>>>> tuner : port2=0
>>>>>>>>>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
>>>>>>>>>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
>>>>>>>>> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
>>>>>>>>> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
>>>>>>>>> conditions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
>>>>>>>>> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
>>>>>>>>> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
>>>>>>>>> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
>>>>>>>>> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Hermann
>>>>>>>> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
>>>>>>>> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
>>>>>>>> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
>>>>>>>> but line in sound with composite and svideo
>>>>>>>> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
>>>>>>>> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
>>>>>>>> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
>>>>>>>> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
>>>>>>>> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll let you know if I can make it work
>>>>>>> Ah, you are in France!
>>>>>> yeah!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
>>>>>>> different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
>>>>>>> introduced.
>>>>>> huhu... but my system has to work worldwide ... so a module option is 
>>>>>> not a good idea, because it does not only depends on the country, but 
>>>>>> also if my customer is using a signal modulator or not, ... and I have 
>>>>>> two cards in my system, and I want to be able to select a certain SECAM 
>>>>>> mode with the first one, and another mode with the second card
>>>>>> Actually I'm selecting secam L, DK or BG with an ioctl cause my card can 
>>>>>> handle them (tested and working with older drivers/kernels)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
>>>>>>> you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
>>>>>>> possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
>>>>>>> chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
>>>>>>> mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
>>>>>>> sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
>>>>>>> tree alsa there.
>>>>>> Ok I'll see with this rate thing and let you know
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Hermann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I still have nothing with oss and rate=32000, with alsa, or with secam=l
>>>>> Anyway, some more informations :
>>>>> * I've got the following error messages on saa7134 module insertion
>>>>>
>>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
>>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_common_ioctl
>>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_boards
>>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_register
>>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_qops
>>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_i2c_call_clients
>>>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_unregister
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_tvaudio_setmute
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa_dsp_writel
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_alloc
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_build
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_free
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_init
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_exit
>>>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_set_dmabits
>>>>> saa7134 ALSA driver for DMA sound loaded
>>>>> saa7134[0]/alsa: saa7134[0] at 0xe5300000 irq 5 registered as card -1
>>>>> saa7134[1]/alsa: saa7134[1] at 0xe5301000 irq 9 registered as card -1
>>>>>
>>>>> * When using audio_debug=1 for saa7134, I've got the following :
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
>>>>> input=Television
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=1 input=Television  =>  mute=1 
>>>>> input=Television
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
>>>>> input=Television
>>>>>
>>>> Did I mention I'm using 2.6.22.19 ?
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> yes, that is the annoying part ;), but still fine, since others have
>>> been already restless on getting support with latest drivers on a
>>> 2.4.18 ! without to provide a single line of code themselves ...
>>>
>>> This is completely different with you, but we have other issues too.
>>>
>>> http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/rev/d6660f8c6dbb
>>>
>>> You might try to clean your /media modules and try with that snapshot.
>>> Not compile tested for 2.6.22, but might fit. Click on bz2 or gz on top.
>>>
>> ok, I'll have a look at this asap
>>
>>> Of course, if not auto detected you can select each TV analog standard
>>> separately for each card you have, but selectable SECAM was new.
>>>
>>> Do you have any progress on it or are you seriously asking me to look at
>>> a 2.6.22.19?
>> My concern is to use any kernel while having full support for my knc tv 
>> station dvr AND my Hauppauge HVR 1300 ... that is, sound and mpeg 
>> compression
>> I was using a 2.6.16.29 'til now, with an old v4l (not v4l-dvb) snapshot 
>> so ... if I can still use my 2.6.16.29 and have support for my knc and 
>> my hauppauge within the same system, I'll be the happiest man (changing 
>> kernel is not an idea we like since by doing that we'll need time to 
>> test uptime equipments before releasing a new version of our products, ...)
>>
>> 2.6.22.19 is not mandatory but I know some things changed between 2.6.16 
>> and recent kernels regarding modules (synopsis of some functions 
>> changed, ...) so adapting a recent snapshot against 2.6.16 might be 
>> painful ...
>>
>>> You might remember, I'm interested at the point, the encoder gave up.
>>>
>> huhu, I know that
>> I'll build 2.6.16 to 2.6.21 kernels this morning to see if my knc have 
>> sound in any of them with the modules included in the kernels (i.e I 
>> won't use my 2005 v4l snapshot) and let you know
> 
> I can't get sound when selecting tuner with drivers included in kernel 
> 2.6.16.29 ... whether I use alsa or oss
> options used :
> tda9887: port2=0
> saa7134-oss : rate=32000 or rate=48000 (same results)
> saa7134: disable_ir=1 oss=1
> 
> or
> tda9887: port2=0
> saa7134: disable_ir=1 alsa=1
> 
> I tried without port2=0, same results ...
> 
>> what do you mean by "the encoder gave up" ?
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hermann
>>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

tests results :

* 2.6.12.6

sound working with tuner, saa7134 options are oss=1 oss_rate=48000 
(32000 works too)

* 2.6.13.5
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ...
Modules linked in: saa7134_empress saa7134  ...


ok !!!!


* 2.6.14.7
------------[ cut here ]------------
kernel BUG at <bad filename>:57323!
invalid operand: 0000 [#1]
Modules linked in: saa7134_empress saa7134 ....
[...]
Code: 07 83 c4 08 c3 8d 76 00 8b 42 08 40 78 1d b8 ff ff ff ff 89 44 24 
04 c7 04 24 10 00 00 00 e8 15 07 ff ff 83 c4 08 c3 0f 0b eb cb <0f> 0b 
eb df 89 f6 8d bc 27 00 00 00 00 83 ec 20 89 74 24 14 8b
  <1>Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!


huhum !!!

* 2.6.15.7

does not crach, but no sound when using tuner, whether I use rate=32000 
or rate=48000 ... oss part has been moved to a new module : saa7134-oss ...

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Re: [linux-dvb] KNC TV Station DVR Tuner Sound Issue

[Frederic CAND]

hermann pitton a écrit :
> Am Mittwoch, den 30.04.2008, 16:45 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND: 
>> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>>> Frederic CAND a écrit :
>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 14:18 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>> hermann pitton a écrit :
>>>>>>> Hi Frederic,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Frederic CAND:
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I recently had to change v4l drivers to support my WinTV HVR 1300.
>>>>>>>> I have issues making my HVR work but that's not the point here.
>>>>>>>> My problem is that since I updated kernel + drivers, I can't manage to 
>>>>>>>> make sound work when I'm using the tuner input. Sound jack input works 
>>>>>>>> when I'm using SVideo or Composite Video, but not when I'm using tuner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are the options I'm using
>>>>>>>> tuner : port2=0
>>>>>>>> saa7134: oss=1 disable_ir=1
>>>>>>>> saa7134-oss: rate=48000
>>>>>>> the rate=48000 is only valid for external analog input and disables
>>>>>>> sound from tuner. Have a look at the saa7134-oss mixer under such
>>>>>>> conditions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You must use default rate of 32000 for dma sound from tuner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The saa7134-oss is also soon deprecated and replaced by saa7134-alsa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are considering using recent v4l-dvb mercurial stuff, which
>>>>>>> should be best for the HVR1300 and reporting bugs on saa7134-empress,
>>>>>>> you might still have your old saa7134-oss module around and some others
>>>>>>> like the old video_buf now loaded, since not deleted on upgrade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After make rmmod and rminstall with current v4l-dvb you should delete
>>>>>>> such remaining modules on older kernels too before make install.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Hermann
>>>>>> hum I used to set rate to 48000 with my old 2005 july snapshot and it 
>>>>>> was working even with tuner ... but ok I'll try 32000
>>>>>> i've tried alsa and I had the same results, that is no sound with tuner 
>>>>>> but line in sound with composite and svideo
>>>>>> do I need some special stuffs compiled in my kernel except from config_snd ?
>>>>>> about old modules still loaded this can't be since I build my system 
>>>>>> from scratch each time i try a new kernel / driver into an ext2 file, 
>>>>>> which I put on a 32MB flash disk and boot on it ... so I'm sure I'm not 
>>>>>> using my old v4l snapshot, but the 2.6.22.19 v4l drivers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll let you know if I can make it work
>>>>> Ah, you are in France!
>>>> yeah!
>>>>
>>>>> Try "modinfo saa7134". Due to unresolvable auto detection issues between
>>>>> different SECAM standards there was a secam= either DK, L or Lc option
>>>>> introduced.
>>>> huhu... but my system has to work worldwide ... so a module option is 
>>>> not a good idea, because it does not only depends on the country, but 
>>>> also if my customer is using a signal modulator or not, ... and I have 
>>>> two cards in my system, and I want to be able to select a certain SECAM 
>>>> mode with the first one, and another mode with the second card
>>>> Actually I'm selecting secam L, DK or BG with an ioctl cause my card can 
>>>> handle them (tested and working with older drivers/kernels)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Anything else then 32000Hz sampling rate for TV is wrong currently and
>>>>> you get that input disabled on saa7134-oss mixer. Yes, it was once
>>>>> possible, but not intended, to use 48000 also for TV/Video on saa7134
>>>>> chips, but gave very poor and crackling sound and is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current saa7134-alsa is simpler to use and also uses an exported
>>>>> mute symbol from saa7134-tvaudio. Default distribution settings are
>>>>> sufficient. On recent Ubutu releases seem to be problems with an out of
>>>>> tree alsa there.
>>>> Ok I'll see with this rate thing and let you know
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Hermann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Greetings.
>>>>
>>> I still have nothing with oss and rate=32000, with alsa, or with secam=l
>>> Anyway, some more informations :
>>> * I've got the following error messages on saa7134 module insertion
>>>
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_common_ioctl
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_boards
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_register
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_qops
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_i2c_call_clients
>>> saa7134_empress: Unknown symbol saa7134_ts_unregister
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_tvaudio_setmute
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa_dsp_writel
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_devlist
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_alloc
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_build
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_pgtable_free
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_init
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_dmasound_exit
>>> saa7134_alsa: Unknown symbol saa7134_set_dmabits
>>> saa7134 ALSA driver for DMA sound loaded
>>> saa7134[0]/alsa: saa7134[0] at 0xe5300000 irq 5 registered as card -1
>>> saa7134[1]/alsa: saa7134[1] at 0xe5301000 irq 9 registered as card -1
>>>
>>> * When using audio_debug=1 for saa7134, I've got the following :
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=1,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
>>> input=Television
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: mute/input: nothing to do [mute=0,input=Television]
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=1 input=Television  =>  mute=1 
>>> input=Television
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: sound IF not in use, skipping scan
>>> saa7134[1]/audio: ctl_mute=0 automute=0 input=Television  =>  mute=0 
>>> input=Television
>>>
>> Did I mention I'm using 2.6.22.19 ?
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> yes, that is the annoying part ;), but still fine, since others have
> been already restless on getting support with latest drivers on a
> 2.4.18 ! without to provide a single line of code themselves ...
> 
> This is completely different with you, but we have other issues too.
> 
> http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/rev/d6660f8c6dbb

I tried that, and yes I have sound with tuner !!!

just using alsa=1 for saa7134

and my HVR is working too (except for sound and tuner but it's another 
thread) so I'll stick to that

many thanks !!!!

> 
> You might try to clean your /media modules and try with that snapshot.
> Not compile tested for 2.6.22, but might fit. Click on bz2 or gz on top.
> 
> Of course, if not auto detected you can select each TV analog standard
> separately for each card you have, but selectable SECAM was new.
> 
> Do you have any progress on it or are you seriously asking me to look at
> a 2.6.22.19?
> 
> You might remember, I'm interested at the point, the encoder gave up.
> 
> Cheers,
> Hermann
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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