From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from sd-green-bigip-83.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.83] helo=spunkymail-a1.g.dreamhost.com) by www.linuxtv.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JvW7a-0006M6-V2 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Mon, 12 May 2008 13:23:13 +0200 Message-ID: <48282843.6010906@dawes.za.net> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:21:39 +0200 From: Rogan Dawes MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Boettcher References: <48281E7A.8010006@dawes.za.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020300020406080207090603" Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] DVB-T South Africa List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-dvb-bounces@linuxtv.org Errors-To: linux-dvb-bounces+mchehab=infradead.org@linuxtv.org List-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020300020406080207090603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patrick Boettcher wrote: > Hi Rogan, > > your dvbtraffic output raises a question: What happens when you run it > for several seconds ? > > Are the PIDs always the same? Especially the one with the higher bitrate? > > I'm asking because if that is the case, it could be that this is a DVB-H > transmission. > > I have some tools (which I did not commit yet) which "scan", in a very > basic way, for DVB-H services, maybe this could help you. > > Before that you can try to use dvbsnoop on PID 0x00 and 0x10 to see > whether it signals a INT-section. > > I could also be a pure radio transmission, but in that case scan should > detect those channels. > > Patrick. Hi Patrick, Actually, I think you may well be right. Our cell networks are trialling (or even deploying) DVB-H, and the content is provided by MultiChoice. Unfortunately (for me) that content is almost definitely encrypted. I guess I might have to retry w_scan to see if it picks up any other frequencies that might have the real DVB-T signals on them. And maybe improve my antennae - I am currently using a Technisat DigiFlex TT2, which is just sitting on my desk. I am attaching the results of "dvbsnoop -s pidscan", as well as a longer capture of dvbtraffic (using "dvbtraffic | tee dvbtraffic.txt", then Ctrl-C after 6-7 seconds). Thanks for your help. Regards, Rogan --------------020300020406080207090603 Content-Type: text/plain; name="pidscan.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="pidscan.txt" rogan@athena:~$ dvbsnoop -s pidscan dvbsnoop V1.4.00 -- http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/ --------------------------------------------------------- Transponder PID-Scan... --------------------------------------------------------- PID found: 0 (0x0000) [SECTION: Program Association Table (PAT)] PID found: 16 (0x0010) [SECTION: Network Information Table (NIT) - actual network] PID found: 17 (0x0011) [SECTION: Service Description Table (SDT) - actual transport stream] PID found: 20 (0x0014) [SECTION: Time Date Table (TDT)] PID found: 21 (0x0015) [SECTION: ITU-T Rec. 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