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* [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
@ 2008-05-15  8:38 Jelle De Loecker
  2008-05-15  9:11 ` David BERCOT
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jelle De Loecker @ 2008-05-15  8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

Good morning all,

I'm having difficulty getting my DVB-S2 card to work on LinuxMCE 0710 
(Kubuntu Feisty, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic) I'll start with some lspci 
info to prove the card is connected:

lspci -v:
04:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH S2-3200
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
        Memory at febffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]

I can compile the drivers just fine, I followed the instructions from 
this French page:
http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html  
<http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html>(I don't completely 
understand French, but we all speak code!)

But after loading the drivers I don't get a /dev/dvb folder.
My dmesg output only shows this message:
saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.

My problem reminds me of this one, from this mailing list: 
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2007-May/018287.html

However, on that post (which is over a year old) they're talking about 
other drivers from the same author (stb0899-v4l-dvb) which seem to be 
part of the multiproto drivers now.
(Adding to all the confusion is another driver called "multiproto-plus".)

Basically, I'm following year old tutorials and I don't know which 
driver is correct.

I do know that both drivers requires some kind of patch, but for the 
multiproto drivers this seems to be for a newer kernel ("Patch pour 
noyau 2.6.24") and the patch for the stb0899-v4l-dvb is a dead-link now.

Keep in mind that I have not connected my LNB yet  - I still need to put 
up my satellite tonight, but I should still be able to see the /dev/dvb 
links, no?

Thank you for your time!

Jelle De Loecker
<http://jusst.de/manu/stb0899-v4l-dvb.tar.bz2>

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* Re: [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
  2008-05-15  8:38 [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty) Jelle De Loecker
@ 2008-05-15  9:11 ` David BERCOT
  2008-05-15  9:40   ` Rudy Zijlstra
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: David BERCOT @ 2008-05-15  9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

Hi Jelle,

I've seen your mail this morning ;-)

Le Thu, 15 May 2008 10:38:10 +0200,
Jelle De Loecker <skerit@kipdola.com> a écrit :
> Good morning all,
> 
> I'm having difficulty getting my DVB-S2 card to work on LinuxMCE 0710 
> (Kubuntu Feisty, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic) I'll start with some lspci 
> info to prove the card is connected:
> lspci -v:
> 04:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
>         Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH S2-3200
>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
>         Memory at febffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
> 
> I can compile the drivers just fine, I followed the instructions from 
> this French page:
> http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html  
> <http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html>(I don't completely 
> understand French, but we all speak code!)
> 
> But after loading the drivers I don't get a /dev/dvb folder.
> My dmesg output only shows this message:
> saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.

Have you reboot your computer ? May be it can solve your problems...
If not, I'll do another version with the multiproto plus driver soon.

Good luck.

David.


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* Re: [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
  2008-05-15  9:11 ` David BERCOT
@ 2008-05-15  9:40   ` Rudy Zijlstra
  2008-05-15 11:27     ` [linux-dvb] Re : " manu
                       ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rudy Zijlstra @ 2008-05-15  9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

On Thursday 15 May 2008 11:11, David BERCOT wrote:
> Hi Jelle,
>
> I've seen your mail this morning ;-)
>
> Le Thu, 15 May 2008 10:38:10 +0200,
>
> Jelle De Loecker <skerit@kipdola.com> a écrit :
> > Good morning all,
> >
> > I'm having difficulty getting my DVB-S2 card to work on LinuxMCE 0710
> > (Kubuntu Feisty, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic) I'll start with some lspci
> > info to prove the card is connected:
> > lspci -v:
> > 04:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
> >         Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH S2-3200
> >         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
> >         Memory at febffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
> >
> > I can compile the drivers just fine, I followed the instructions from
> > this French page:
> > http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html
> > <http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html>(I don't completely
> > understand French, but we all speak code!)
> >
> > But after loading the drivers I don't get a /dev/dvb folder.
> > My dmesg output only shows this message:
> > saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.
>
> Have you reboot your computer ? May be it can solve your problems...
> If not, I'll do another version with the multiproto plus driver soon.
>

Remains the question, what is the difference between multiproto and multiproto 
plus?

Its something i also would like to understand. Another question, how if 
progress on CI with the TT-3200?

Cheers,

Rudy

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* [linux-dvb] Re : Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
  2008-05-15  9:40   ` Rudy Zijlstra
@ 2008-05-15 11:27     ` manu
       [not found]     ` <482C111D.6000400@kipdola.com>
  2008-05-17 21:18     ` [linux-dvb] " Manu Abraham
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: manu @ 2008-05-15 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

On 05/15/2008 05:40:15 AM, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thursday 15 May 2008 11:11, David BERCOT wrote:
> > Hi Jelle,
> >
> > I've seen your mail this morning ;-)
> >
> > Le Thu, 15 May 2008 10:38:10 +0200,
> >
> > Jelle De Loecker <skerit@kipdola.com> a écrit :
> > > Good morning all,
> > >
> > > I'm having difficulty getting my DVB-S2 card to work on LinuxMCE
> 0710
> > > (Kubuntu Feisty, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic) I'll start with some
> lspci
> > > info to prove the card is connected:
> > > lspci -v:
> > > 04:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 
> (rev
> 01)
> > >         Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH S2-3200
> > >         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
> > >         Memory at febffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
> > >
> > > I can compile the drivers just fine, I followed the instructions
> from
> > > this French page:
> > > http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html
> > > <http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html>(I don't completely
> > > understand French, but we all speak code!)
> > >
> > > But after loading the drivers I don't get a /dev/dvb folder.
> > > My dmesg output only shows this message:
> > > saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.
> >
> > Have you reboot your computer ? May be it can solve your 
> problems...
> > If not, I'll do another version with the multiproto plus driver
> soon.
> >
> 
> Remains the question, what is the difference between multiproto and
> multiproto 
> plus?
> 
> Its something i also would like to understand. Another question, how
> if 
> progress on CI with the TT-3200?
> 

Here TT-3200 working with my CAm with no problem (almost every channel 
is scrambled on my sat). I can even have 2channels simustaneously 
recorded (Astoncrypt cam is able to decode 2 streams simultaneously).
Software: multiproto (1- months old I think)+mythtv-0.21 (I had to 
modify it: I need to ADD 4 MHz to the frequency, else I have unreliable 
or no lock).
HTH
Bye
Manu



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* Re: [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
       [not found]       ` <20080515143850.5dc9b190@bercot.org>
@ 2008-05-15 13:04         ` Jelle De Loecker
  2008-05-15 20:11           ` [linux-dvb] Re : " manu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jelle De Loecker @ 2008-05-15 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LinuxTV DVB Mailing


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This is my first mailing-list experience, but I'm liking it more then a 
regular forum! :-P
>> I have rebooted the computer multiple times.
>> I also unloaded the modules and reloaded them without rebooting.
>> I even added the modules to the blacklist, rebooted, loaded the
>> modules manually - they still won't go.
>>     
> Hum, I don't understand...
What I was trying to say: I tried everything I could think of to get 
them to work! (rebooting, modprobe -r && modprobe, adding the modules to 
/etc/modprobe/d/blacklist to make them not load at boot and load them 
afterwards)

>> As stated before, I'm also curious what the difference between all
>> these drivers are.
>>     
>
> I don't know. I did not have time to look at it but I hope, soon, I
> will be able to study it...
I look forward to it! :-)

If I can't get it to work on my LinuxMCE machine (which is a strange 
beast, after all!) I'll just install Mythbuntu 8.04 on another partition 
and try that out.

>> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>     
>
> Mhummm, it looks like a strange language ;-)
Am I wrong to assume you live in France? Otherwise you're not 
recognising your neighbouring country's language! :-D
It's Dutch, by the way ;)

Greetings,

Jelle De Loecker

David BERCOT schreef:
> Hi again,
>
> Le Thu, 15 May 2008 12:31:57 +0200,
> Jelle De Loecker <skerit@kipdola.com> a écrit :
>   
>> Ah, my apologies, I'm trying to get help from every available
>> resource, and asking the person who wrote the tutorial seemed like a
>> good idea! :)
>>     
>
> Yes, it was ;-) No problem...
>
>   
>> I have rebooted the computer multiple times.
>> I also unloaded the modules and reloaded them without rebooting.
>> I even added the modules to the blacklist, rebooted, loaded the
>> modules manually - they still won't go.
>>     
>
> Hum, I don't understand...
>  
>   
>> As stated before, I'm also curious what the difference between all
>> these drivers are.
>>     
>
> I don't know. I did not have time to look at it but I hope, soon, I
> will be able to study it...
>
>   
>> Am I correct in assuming the CI doesn't work yet?
>>     
>
> It doesn't matter. The CI doesn't work on my computer (I don't know
> why) but everything else is OK !
>
>   
>> It's not such a big deal at the moment, I just spent all my money on
>> the setup!
>> I'll get along with freesat & othe free-to-air channels untill I
>> finally get a subscription, I'm just curious.
>>     
>
> For me, I have another terminal, so, it explains why I don't take time
> to do other tests... But I'll do ;-)
>
>   
>> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>     
>
> Mhummm, it looks like a strange language ;-)
>
> David.
>
>   
>> Jelle De Loecker
>>
>>
>> Rudy Zijlstra schreef:
>>     
>>> On Thursday 15 May 2008 11:11, David BERCOT wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Hi Jelle,
>>>>
>>>> I've seen your mail this morning ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Le Thu, 15 May 2008 10:38:10 +0200,
>>>>
>>>> Jelle De Loecker <skerit@kipdola.com> a écrit :
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm having difficulty getting my DVB-S2 card to work on LinuxMCE
>>>>> 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic) I'll start with
>>>>> some lspci info to prove the card is connected:
>>>>> lspci -v:
>>>>> 04:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146
>>>>> (rev 01) Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH S2-3200
>>>>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
>>>>>         Memory at febffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
>>>>>
>>>>> I can compile the drivers just fine, I followed the instructions
>>>>> from this French page:
>>>>> http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html
>>>>> <http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html>(I don't completely
>>>>> understand French, but we all speak code!)
>>>>>
>>>>> But after loading the drivers I don't get a /dev/dvb folder.
>>>>> My dmesg output only shows this message:
>>>>> saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Have you reboot your computer ? May be it can solve your
>>>> problems... If not, I'll do another version with the multiproto
>>>> plus driver soon.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Remains the question, what is the difference between multiproto and
>>> multiproto plus?
>>>
>>> Its something i also would like to understand. Another question,
>>> how if progress on CI with the TT-3200?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rudy
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> linux-dvb mailing list
>>> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
>>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
>>>       


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* [linux-dvb] Re : Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
  2008-05-15 13:04         ` [linux-dvb] " Jelle De Loecker
@ 2008-05-15 20:11           ` manu
  2008-05-15 20:18             ` Jelle De Loecker
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: manu @ 2008-05-15 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

On 05/15/2008 09:04:23 AM, Jelle De Loecker wrote:
> This is my first mailing-list experience, but I'm liking it more then
> a 
> regular forum! :-P
> >> I have rebooted the computer multiple times.
> >> I also unloaded the modules and reloaded them without rebooting.
> >> I even added the modules to the blacklist, rebooted, loaded the
> >> modules manually - they still won't go.
> >>     

So to make it clear: you compiled and installed the drivers from the 
multiproto tree of Manu Abraham (not me, another Manu ;-)
Then how do you test it? I use mythtv but for that you need to patch it 
(I use mythtv-0.21 branch).
Bye
Manu


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* Re: [linux-dvb] Re : Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
  2008-05-15 20:11           ` [linux-dvb] Re : " manu
@ 2008-05-15 20:18             ` Jelle De Loecker
  2008-05-15 21:01               ` [linux-dvb] Re : " manu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jelle De Loecker @ 2008-05-15 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb


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manu schreef:
> On 05/15/2008 09:04:23 AM, Jelle De Loecker wrote:
>   
>>>> I have rebooted the computer multiple times.
>>>> I also unloaded the modules and reloaded them without rebooting.
>>>> I even added the modules to the blacklist, rebooted, loaded the
>>>> modules manually - they still won't go.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>
> So to make it clear: you compiled and installed the drivers from the 
> multiproto tree of Manu Abraham (not me, another Manu ;-)
> Then how do you test it? I use mythtv but for that you need to patch it 
> (I use mythtv-0.21 branch).
> Bye
> Manu
>   
Hi Manu,

I never got to test it! I would never get a /dev/dvb map with the needed 
devices in it.
Apparently it's a problem with that kernel, because I tried the latest 
Mythbuntu 8.04 and the drivers do work there!

I wish it could be fixed, though, as I strongly prefer LinuxMCE to 
Mythbuntu.

Now that I'm temporarily running Mythbuntu I'm trying to get *any* 
signal from my LNB (through a disecq switch)
Fingers crossed!

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* [linux-dvb] Re : Re : Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
  2008-05-15 20:18             ` Jelle De Loecker
@ 2008-05-15 21:01               ` manu
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: manu @ 2008-05-15 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-dvb

On 05/15/2008 04:18:38 PM, Jelle De Loecker wrote:
> manu schreef:
> > On 05/15/2008 09:04:23 AM, Jelle De Loecker wrote:
> >   
> >>>> I have rebooted the computer multiple times.
> >>>> I also unloaded the modules and reloaded them without rebooting.
> >>>> I even added the modules to the blacklist, rebooted, loaded the
> >>>> modules manually - they still won't go.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >
> > So to make it clear: you compiled and installed the drivers from 
> the
> 
> > multiproto tree of Manu Abraham (not me, another Manu ;-)
> > Then how do you test it? I use mythtv but for that you need to 
> patch
> it 
> > (I use mythtv-0.21 branch).
> > Bye
> > Manu
> >   
> Hi Manu,
> 
> I never got to test it! I would never get a /dev/dvb map with the
> needed 
> devices in it.
> Apparently it's a problem with that kernel, because I tried the 
> latest
> 
> Mythbuntu 8.04 and the drivers do work there!
> 
> I wish it could be fixed, though, as I strongly prefer LinuxMCE to 
> Mythbuntu.
> 
> Now that I'm temporarily running Mythbuntu I'm trying to get *any* 
> signal from my LNB (through a disecq switch)
> Fingers crossed!
> 

> _______________________________________________
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> linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
> 

If you have some problem getting locks, try to add 4 MHz to the 
frequencies (I hacked the mythtv sources directly). For my setup this 
gives me perfect tuning anyatime for all transponders (DVB-S only 
though, no DVB-S2 around here).
Bye
Manu



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* Re: [linux-dvb] Technotrend S2-3200 (Or Technisat Skystar HD) on LinuxMCE 0710 (Kubuntu Feisty)
  2008-05-15  9:40   ` Rudy Zijlstra
  2008-05-15 11:27     ` [linux-dvb] Re : " manu
       [not found]     ` <482C111D.6000400@kipdola.com>
@ 2008-05-17 21:18     ` Manu Abraham
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Manu Abraham @ 2008-05-17 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rudy Zijlstra; +Cc: linux-dvb

Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thursday 15 May 2008 11:11, David BERCOT wrote:
>> Hi Jelle,
>>
>> I've seen your mail this morning ;-)
>>
>> Le Thu, 15 May 2008 10:38:10 +0200,
>>
>> Jelle De Loecker <skerit@kipdola.com> a écrit :
>>> Good morning all,
>>>
>>> I'm having difficulty getting my DVB-S2 card to work on LinuxMCE 0710
>>> (Kubuntu Feisty, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic) I'll start with some lspci
>>> info to prove the card is connected:
>>> lspci -v:
>>> 04:01.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
>>>         Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH S2-3200
>>>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
>>>         Memory at febffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
>>>
>>> I can compile the drivers just fine, I followed the instructions from
>>> this French page:
>>> http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html
>>> <http://wilco.bercot.org/debian/s2-3200.html>(I don't completely
>>> understand French, but we all speak code!)
>>>
>>> But after loading the drivers I don't get a /dev/dvb folder.
>>> My dmesg output only shows this message:
>>> saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.
>> Have you reboot your computer ? May be it can solve your problems...
>> If not, I'll do another version with the multiproto plus driver soon.
>>
> 
> Remains the question, what is the difference between multiproto and multiproto 
> plus?
> 
> Its something i also would like to understand. Another question, how if 
> progress on CI with the TT-3200?


CI with regards to the STB0899 + 7146 based cards works properly AFAICS.

In fact, received quite some mails long back itself that CA on these
cards worked properly.

On some machines with buggy BIOS'es, APIC issues I2C and CA issues were
kind of prominent, but generally, saw quite some successfully decrypted
DVB-S2 HD streams with some few persons around.



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