From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from gateway12.websitewelcome.com ([67.18.44.21]) by www.linuxtv.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KSX43-0005s0-K3 for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:04:02 +0200 Message-ID: <48A038B8.7020900@kipdola.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:03:52 +0200 From: Jelle De Loecker MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christophe Thommeret , LinuxTV DVB Mailing References: <200808041904.48093.hftom@free.fr> <48A004E3.2090006@kipdola.com> <200808111448.55087.hftom@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <200808111448.55087.hftom@free.fr> Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Is it possible to descramble signal from 2 frontends? List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-dvb-bounces@linuxtv.org Errors-To: linux-dvb-bounces+mchehab=infradead.org@linuxtv.org List-ID: Christophe Thommeret schreef: > Le Monday 11 August 2008 11:22:43 Jelle De Loecker, vous avez =E9crit : > = >> Christophe Thommeret schreef: >> = >>> Le Monday 04 August 2008 18:58:17 kurt xue, vous avez =E9crit : >>> = >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have two TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI card and 1 CAM, is it possible to use >>>> this CAM to descramble signal from frontends of both DVB card? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any reply! >>>> Kurt >>>> = >>> No. >>> = >> That isn't a very helpful answer to his problem, is it? >> He might have wanted any reply, but trying to be friendly wouldn't have >> killed you. >> >> I'll give this a go: >> >> There is a way, called "cardsharing", to decode multiple streams with 1 >> cam. >> = > CAM !=3D CardReader > > = >> Do note, however, that some people think this is illegal, but that's = >> because cardsharing has a bad name. There are people who perform this >> "cardsharing" with other people over the internet, which IS illegal. >> = > Getting control words outside the "secured" area is illegal. > = >> Because of this most people don't want us to talk about *any *kind of >> cardsharing, just to be on the safe side. >> I can follow their reasoning but it still resembles some kind of >> illogical censor which we should not tollerate! >> But I digress ... >> >> Because this local cardsharing is not illegal (at least not where I'm >> from), some set top boxes you buy in the store also have multiple >> (working) tuners, so they perform some kind of internal cardsharing as >> well. >> = > It's not a matter of cardsharing. It's of course technicaly possible to h= ave = > one cam beeing feed with streams from different tuners, but not on most P= C = > DVB cards like the TT ones where CI is wired to the card. > > = >> Please correct me if I'm wrong or being ignorant ... >> = > Done. > = What is the definition of this "secured" area? According to you it's perfectly ok to decrypt multiple streams with one = cam... but only if it is with the correct, approved, hardware? In essence, this is a shortcomming of the TT hardware, can we really = tell people not to fix it using software because it'll break some = ridiculous IP law, or whatever? _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb