From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from gateway16.websitewelcome.com ([69.56.160.2]) by www.linuxtv.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KYowf-0003KC-TH for linux-dvb@linuxtv.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:22:22 +0200 Message-ID: <48B71706.3000504@kipdola.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:22:14 +0200 From: Jelle De Loecker MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Werner , v4l-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org References: <20080821173909.114260@gmx.net> <20080823200531.246370@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080823200531.246370@gmx.net> Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Future of DVB-S2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0044520117==" Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: linux-dvb-bounces@linuxtv.org Errors-To: linux-dvb-bounces+mchehab=infradead.org@linuxtv.org List-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0044520117== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050700070302060209050908" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050700070302060209050908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yet all we need is some clarification on what's going to happen in the future. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg Hans Werner schreef: >> An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, mchehab@infradead.org, v4l-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org >> Betreff: [linux-dvb] Future of DVB-S2 >> > > >> A question to the maintainer: >> >> what is your plan for getting DVB-S2 support into the mainline kernel? >> >> So many people have put so much time and effort into creating a working >> API, drivers >> and applications but I have seen no indications of the direction and >> timescale anywhere. >> >> All this work is of very little value if it does not end up in the >> mainline kernel. Maintaining >> out-of-kernel projects and patches over the long term is a terrible waste >> of effort for >> maintainers, developers and experienced users. It also makes Linux DVB >> look less than >> professional, and is almost worthless to most end users. >> >> Working code already exists but it needs to be managed into a form that >> can be merged >> with the kernel. >> >> So how is it going to be done? It's really not that hard. >> > > Bump. > > It's disappointingly silent so far.... > > In the interest of making progress I will be more specific. > > It is easily possible to use the work that has already been done to quickly create (and debug > and merge) kernel patches which will provide support for one or more DVB-S2 cards. > > But before such patches can be created, there needs to be a clear statement about > which API changes (if any) will be permitted. > > How will the API change? Who is going to make the decision? When? > > Hopefully, > Hans > > --------------050700070302060209050908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yet all we need is some clarification on what's going to happen in the future.

Met vriendelijke groeten,

Jelle De Loecker
Kipdola Studios - Tomberg



Hans Werner schreef: 
An: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org, mchehab@infradead.org, v4l-dvb-maintainer@linuxtv.org
Betreff: [linux-dvb] Future of DVB-S2
    

  
A question to the maintainer:

what is your plan for getting DVB-S2 support into the mainline kernel?

So many people have put so much time and effort into creating a working
API, drivers
and applications but I have seen no indications of the direction and
timescale anywhere.

All this work is of very little value if it does not end up in the
mainline kernel. Maintaining
out-of-kernel projects and patches over the long term is a terrible waste
of effort for
maintainers, developers and experienced users. It also makes Linux DVB
look less than
professional, and is almost worthless to most end users.

Working code already exists but it needs to be managed into a form that
can be merged
with the kernel.

So how is it going to be done? It's really not that hard.
    

Bump.

It's disappointingly silent so far....

In the interest of making progress I will be more specific.
 
It is easily possible to use the work that has already been done to quickly create (and debug
and merge) kernel patches which will provide support for one or more DVB-S2 cards.

But before such patches can be created,  there needs to be a clear statement about
which API changes (if any) will be permitted.

How will the API change? Who is going to make the decision? When?

Hopefully,
Hans
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