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From: Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org>
To: Artem Makhutov <artem@makhutov.org>
Cc: linux-dvb <linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:14:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48B963D1.3060908@linuxtv.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080830150844.GQ7830@moelleritberatung.de>

Artem Makhutov wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 02:29:30PM -0400, Steven Toth wrote:
>> Regarding the multiproto situation:
>>
>> A number of developers, maintainers and users are unhappy with the
>> multiproto situation, actually they've been unhappy for a considerable
>> amount of time. The linuxtv developer community (to some degree) is seen
>> as a joke and a bunch in-fighting people. Multiproto is a great
>> demonstration of this. [1] The multiproto project has gone too far, for
>> too long and no longer has any credibility in the eyes of many people.
> 
> Can you please explain me what you do not like in multiproto?


1. Where is the support for ISDB-T/ATSC-MH/CMMB/DVB-H/DBM-T/H and other 
modulation types. If we're going to make a massive kernel change then 
why aren't we accommodating these new modulation types? If we don't 
added now then we'll have the rev the kernel ABI again in 2 months.... 
that isn't a forward looking future proof API.

2. It's too big, too risky, too late. It doesn't add enough new fatures 
to the kernel to justify the massive code change.

Thanks your for your feedback.

Regards,

Steve



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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-30 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 18:29 [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support Steven Toth
2008-08-29 19:00 ` Hans Werner
2008-08-29 19:20 ` P. van Gaans
2008-08-29 21:05 ` Grégoire FAVRE
2008-08-30 16:03   ` Udo Richter
2008-08-30  0:04 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-08-30  0:37   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 11:16 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-08-30 14:48   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 20:13   ` [linux-dvb] [vdr] " Johannes Stezenbach
2008-08-31  0:48     ` hermann pitton
2008-08-30 11:16 ` [linux-dvb] " Christian Tramnitz
2008-08-30 14:51   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 12:16 ` ChaosMedia > WebDev
2008-08-30 14:57   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 14:16 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-08-30 15:00   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 15:08 ` Artem Makhutov
2008-08-30 15:14   ` Steven Toth [this message]
2008-08-30 16:06     ` Goga777
2008-08-30 17:39       ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:58     ` Manu Abraham
2008-08-30 17:05   ` Manu Abraham
2008-08-30 15:30 ` Janne Grunau
2008-08-30 17:26   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:59 ` Douglas Schilling Landgraf
2008-08-30 17:27   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 17:03 ` Nicolas Will
2008-08-30 17:29   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 17:53 ` Charles Price
2008-08-30 18:03   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-31  3:57     ` Markus Rechberger
2008-08-31 10:32       ` Michael J. Curtis
2008-08-31 21:26       ` Steven Toth
     [not found]       ` <20080831042115.GA21622@kroah.com>
2008-09-05 20:54         ` Aidan Thornton
2008-08-31 14:58 ` Jan Hoogenraad
     [not found] ` <48BAAEC1.5070105@h-i-s.nl>
2008-08-31 21:37   ` Steven Toth
2008-09-01 20:35 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-09-04 14:25   ` Steven Toth
     [not found] ` <200809101340.09702.hftom@free.fr>
     [not found]   ` <48C7CDCF.9090300@hauppauge.com>
2008-09-10 15:10     ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-10 15:33       ` Janne Grunau
2008-09-10 18:39         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 22:46           ` hermann pitton
2008-09-10 16:12       ` Hans Werner
2008-09-10 18:47         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 20:32           ` [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support. (Was: Re: DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support) Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11 13:35             ` [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11 14:22               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 19:31               ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 22:59         ` [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  0:01           ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11  1:00             ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11  1:17               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11  2:59                 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11  4:10                   ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11 12:51                     ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11 21:08                       ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11  4:22               ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  5:44                 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 13:43                 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-11 15:06                   ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  5:48               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-10 18:32       ` Steven Toth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-31 21:05 Igor M. Liplianin
2008-08-31 21:40 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-01 16:38   ` VDR User
2008-09-01 17:24     ` Jelle De Loecker
2008-09-01 20:28       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-09-01 20:34     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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