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From: Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org>
To: Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	mrechberger@sundtek.com, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:26:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48BB0C97.80101@linuxtv.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9def9db0808302057u25e7ce5yfb2967c893255df0@mail.gmail.com>

Markus Rechberger wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org> wrote:
>> Charles Price wrote:
>>>> If you also feel frustrated by the multiproto situation and agree in
>>>> principle with this new approach, and the overall direction of the API
>>>> changes, then we welcome you and ask you to help us.
>>>>
>>> I wholeheartedly agree.
>>>
>>> Although I can't offer any programming input, I do have a variety of DVB
>>> hardware and different architectures on which I can test your creations.
>>>
>>> Happy to help.
> 
> not reading the parts above, but saying this is Steven, not caring
> about the main people who work on something.
> 
> There's a split between a few people here (including myself) and other
> people from that scene who just don't care about anything.
> 
> Manu and the others put in alot work, why screw what he wrote (code)
> he has been on vacation (I know he married a few weeks ago - since I
> got the invitation) Hauppauge people (Michael Krufky and Steven Toth)
> are running their personal own game .. sorry to say that but it's that
> way.
> 
> I have logs and mails here where Steven and Mike wrote hey that would
> be a cool idea about compatibility but when "I" mentioned it again and
> spent work on it it was like hey we're linux only (I don't only care
> about linux since I also work alot with commercial companies in that
> area look at the dibcom website - Job requirement 'independent' code
> neither do I want to depend on Windows nor Linux but having something
> that works on both in case of hardware is fine - especially I2C is
> trivial to realize for everything).
> 
> Rethink your position and try to get people onboard but don't try to
> screw people and run your own game.
> 
> Seeing the comments Acked-By: xyz - I cannot review neither contribute
> code but I can provide webspace .. hilarious. get down on earth again
> Steven, Mike expecially Mauro - try to get Manufacturers onboard
> instead working against you.
> I talked alot with Manu he has good connections and is avoing to work
> together just as I am because of certain Monopoly and copyright
> infringements which you are building here (I see Mauro using leaked
> code here!) . Mauro is spreading foo, Manu has the specs for xyz. I
> fully understand Manu's point since Mauro did the same with me,
> however .. I better don't comment it.
> 
> Let's put another thing in here: Greg Kroah Hartman Linux Guy reverted
> my patch in favour of supporting the binary Firmware upload tool of
> Dell (I fully support Dell here too) although claiming to be
> opensource but still running after someone (please comment this one -
> it confused me at 'your' position). It was just like ok let's revert
> it but not asking why?!
> I'm just getting up with this just because I saw following yesterday:
> 21:07 < pmp> hmm: request_firmware(&fw, CX24116_DEFAULT_FIRMWARE,
> &state->i2c->dev) ?
> 21:08 < pmp> the &state->i2c->dev looks strange and the kernel is
> saying that about it: kobject_add failed
>              for i2c-1 with -EEXIST, don't try to re....
> 21:09 < pmp> other fe-driver have a callback in their config-struct...
> 21:09 < pmp> I start to believe there is a reason ;)
> 
> I better cut it now.

I've learned never to expect anything different from you, such a pity.

Steve

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-31 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 18:29 [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support Steven Toth
2008-08-29 19:00 ` Hans Werner
2008-08-29 19:20 ` P. van Gaans
2008-08-29 21:05 ` Grégoire FAVRE
2008-08-30 16:03   ` Udo Richter
2008-08-30  0:04 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-08-30  0:37   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 11:16 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-08-30 14:48   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 20:13   ` [linux-dvb] [vdr] " Johannes Stezenbach
2008-08-31  0:48     ` hermann pitton
2008-08-30 11:16 ` [linux-dvb] " Christian Tramnitz
2008-08-30 14:51   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 12:16 ` ChaosMedia > WebDev
2008-08-30 14:57   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 14:16 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-08-30 15:00   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 15:08 ` Artem Makhutov
2008-08-30 15:14   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:06     ` Goga777
2008-08-30 17:39       ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:58     ` Manu Abraham
2008-08-30 17:05   ` Manu Abraham
2008-08-30 15:30 ` Janne Grunau
2008-08-30 17:26   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 16:59 ` Douglas Schilling Landgraf
2008-08-30 17:27   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 17:03 ` Nicolas Will
2008-08-30 17:29   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-30 17:53 ` Charles Price
2008-08-30 18:03   ` Steven Toth
2008-08-31  3:57     ` Markus Rechberger
2008-08-31 10:32       ` Michael J. Curtis
2008-08-31 21:26       ` Steven Toth [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20080831042115.GA21622@kroah.com>
2008-09-05 20:54         ` Aidan Thornton
2008-08-31 14:58 ` Jan Hoogenraad
     [not found] ` <48BAAEC1.5070105@h-i-s.nl>
2008-08-31 21:37   ` Steven Toth
2008-09-01 20:35 ` Hans Verkuil
2008-09-04 14:25   ` Steven Toth
     [not found] ` <200809101340.09702.hftom@free.fr>
     [not found]   ` <48C7CDCF.9090300@hauppauge.com>
2008-09-10 15:10     ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-10 15:33       ` Janne Grunau
2008-09-10 18:39         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 22:46           ` hermann pitton
2008-09-10 16:12       ` Hans Werner
2008-09-10 18:47         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 20:32           ` [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support. (Was: Re: DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support) Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11 13:35             ` [linux-dvb] Multiple frontends on a single adapter support Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11 14:22               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 19:31               ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 22:59         ` [linux-dvb] DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  0:01           ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-11  1:00             ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11  1:17               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11  2:59                 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11  4:10                   ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11 12:51                     ` Steven Toth
2008-09-11 21:08                       ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11  4:22               ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  5:44                 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 13:43                 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-11 15:06                   ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-11  5:48               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-10 18:32       ` Steven Toth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-31 21:05 Igor M. Liplianin
2008-08-31 21:40 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-01 16:38   ` VDR User
2008-09-01 17:24     ` Jelle De Loecker
2008-09-01 20:28       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-09-01 20:34     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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