* Re: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
2008-08-31 18:26 em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L Lee Alkureishi
@ 2008-08-31 19:12 ` hermann pitton
2008-08-31 22:11 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-01 14:03 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: hermann pitton @ 2008-08-31 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lee Alkureishi; +Cc: video4linux-list, alkureishi.lee
Hi Lee,
Am Sonntag, den 31.08.2008, 19:26 +0100 schrieb Lee Alkureishi:
> Hi all,
>
> Hoping someone on this list can help me with this frustrating problem:
>
> I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04, fully updated. I'm trying to set up a USB TV tuner box, and have made progress but haven't quite got it working.
>
> The USB box is a Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF. It uses a Empia em2820 chipset, and a Tena TNF-9533-D/IF tuner. Other chips I found under the casing are:
> RM-KUB03 04AEAAC6, HEF4052BT, TEA5767, SAA7113H.
>
> The PCB has the following printed on it: EM2800TV_KW Ver:F
>
> I followed the instructions to install v4l using mercurial, and have got it to the point where dmesg shows that the card is recognised and initialised:
> ------
> dmesg:
> [ 1844.847318] usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
> [ 1844.979744] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> [ 1844.980718] em28xx new video device (eb1a:2820): interface 0, class 255
> [ 1844.980727] em28xx: device is attached to a USB 2.0 bus
> [ 1844.980730] em28xx: you're using the experimental/unstable tree from mcentral.de
> [ 1844.980732] em28xx: there's also a stable tree available but which is limited to
> [ 1844.980734] em28xx: linux <=2.6.19.2
> [ 1844.980736] em28xx: it's fine to use this driver but keep in mind that it will move
> [ 1844.980738] em28xx: to http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/v4l-dvb-kernel as soon as it's
> [ 1844.980740] em28xx: proved to be stable
> [ 1844.980743] em28xx #0: Alternate settings: 8
> [ 1844.980746] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 0, max size= 0
> [ 1844.980748] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 1, max size= 1024
> [ 1844.980750] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 2, max size= 1448
> [ 1844.980752] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 3, max size= 2048
> [ 1844.980754] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 4, max size= 2304
> [ 1844.980756] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 5, max size= 2580
> [ 1844.980758] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 6, max size= 2892
> [ 1844.980760] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 7, max size= 3072
> [ 1845.271190] tuner 1-0060: TEA5767 detected.
> [ 1845.271199] tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (em28xx #0)
> [ 1845.271254] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c0
> [ 1845.271260] tuner 0x60: Configuration acknowledged
> [ 1845.271266] tuner 1-0060: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
> [ 1845.272189] tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (em28xx #0)
> [ 1845.272215] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c2
> [ 1845.272219] tuner 0x61: Configuration acknowledged
> [ 1845.272223] tuner 1-0061: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
> [ 1845.302962] saa7115 1-0025: saa7113 found (1f7113d0e100000) @ 0x4a (em28xx #0)
> [ 1845.332719] attach_inform: saa7113 detected.
> [ 1845.346159] em28xx #0: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
> [ 1845.346173] em28xx #0: Found Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF
> ----------
>
> (I had to manally tell modprobe to set the card type (18) and tuner type (61), as it does not have an EPROM. Took me forever to figure that out!
>
> The problem arises when I try to do anything with it, though: I've tried a few programs, including mythTV, tvtime and xawtv. I can't find a way to select the TUNER as the input source. The only options are "composite1" or "s-video1". I've got a cheap antenna attached to the antenna connector, and a DTV set-top box attached to the composite input. I can't seem to get any sort of picture to come up on either input, though... Tvtime just gives a black screen, and lets me cycle between composite/s-video. MythTV just dumps me back to the main menu when I try to watch TV. Scanning for channels brings up nothing in Myth setup.
>
> I tried tvtime-scanner, but it fails:
>
> leeko@leeko-media:~$ tvtime-scanner &
> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
> Scanning using TV standard NTSC.
> [1] 6918
> leeko@leeko-media:~$
> No tuner found on input 0. If you have a tuner, please
> select a different input using --input=<num>.
> [1]+ Exit 1 tvtime-scanner
>
> I tried cycling through input=1 through 4, but they didn't work either (2 through 4 give an error about the card not being able to set its input).
>
> Am I doing something wrong? Surely I should see an option to choose the tuner as an input? As far as I can tell, it looks like it should be working!
>
> The only thing I can think of, is that the tuner may actually have originated outside the USA (i.e. the UK). Would that stop it from working with NTSC channels? And even so, should the composite input not still work? (And why can't I even select the tuner!?).
>
> If I do "ls /dev/video*", the only entry is /dev/video0.
>
> Thanks in advance for ANY help you can offer. This is driving me nuts! I've been learning as I go along, but I've hit a brick wall now :(
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lee
>
just for the information about the tuner for now, I made that tuner
entry once for a Kworld/Tevion saa7134 card in the UK.
It also came with a separate tea5767 silicon radio tuner.
Your doubts seem to be correct, the TV tuner won't work for NTSC. Sorry.
Cheers,
Hermann
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* Re: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
2008-08-31 18:26 em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L Lee Alkureishi
2008-08-31 19:12 ` hermann pitton
@ 2008-08-31 22:11 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-08-31 22:26 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-01 13:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-09-01 14:03 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Markus Rechberger @ 2008-08-31 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lee Alkureishi; +Cc: video4linux-list, alkureishi.lee
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Lee Alkureishi
<lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Hoping someone on this list can help me with this frustrating problem:
>
> I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04, fully updated. I'm trying to set up a USB TV tuner box, and have made progress but haven't quite got it working.
>
> The USB box is a Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF. It uses a Empia em2820 chipset, and a Tena TNF-9533-D/IF tuner. Other chips I found under the casing are:
> RM-KUB03 04AEAAC6, HEF4052BT, TEA5767, SAA7113H.
>
> The PCB has the following printed on it: EM2800TV_KW Ver:F
>
> I followed the instructions to install v4l using mercurial, and have got it to the point where dmesg shows that the card is recognised and initialised:
> ------
> dmesg:
> [ 1844.847318] usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
> [ 1844.979744] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> [ 1844.980718] em28xx new video device (eb1a:2820): interface 0, class 255
> [ 1844.980727] em28xx: device is attached to a USB 2.0 bus
> [ 1844.980730] em28xx: you're using the experimental/unstable tree from mcentral.de
> [ 1844.980732] em28xx: there's also a stable tree available but which is limited to
> [ 1844.980734] em28xx: linux <=2.6.19.2
> [ 1844.980736] em28xx: it's fine to use this driver but keep in mind that it will move
> [ 1844.980738] em28xx: to http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/v4l-dvb-kernel as soon as it's
> [ 1844.980740] em28xx: proved to be stable
> [ 1844.980743] em28xx #0: Alternate settings: 8
> [ 1844.980746] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 0, max size= 0
> [ 1844.980748] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 1, max size= 1024
> [ 1844.980750] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 2, max size= 1448
> [ 1844.980752] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 3, max size= 2048
> [ 1844.980754] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 4, max size= 2304
> [ 1844.980756] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 5, max size= 2580
> [ 1844.980758] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 6, max size= 2892
> [ 1844.980760] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 7, max size= 3072
> [ 1845.271190] tuner 1-0060: TEA5767 detected.
> [ 1845.271199] tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (em28xx #0)
> [ 1845.271254] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c0
> [ 1845.271260] tuner 0x60: Configuration acknowledged
> [ 1845.271266] tuner 1-0060: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
> [ 1845.272189] tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (em28xx #0)
> [ 1845.272215] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c2
> [ 1845.272219] tuner 0x61: Configuration acknowledged
> [ 1845.272223] tuner 1-0061: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
> [ 1845.302962] saa7115 1-0025: saa7113 found (1f7113d0e100000) @ 0x4a (em28xx #0)
> [ 1845.332719] attach_inform: saa7113 detected.
> [ 1845.346159] em28xx #0: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
> [ 1845.346173] em28xx #0: Found Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF
> ----------
>
please don't use that driver, it'S not maintained anymore either.
can you run:
$ apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r`-generic
for restoring your kernel?
You should safely be able to compile the latest em28xx driver or grab
debian packages for it (what does uname -r show up?)
$ hg clone http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/em28xx-new
$ cd em28xx-new
$ ./build.sh build
$ ./build.sh install
there's also em28xx at mcentral.de available which has alot
subscribers who have em28xx based devices, it only deals about Empia
based devices and appilcations + support for those devices only.
Markus
> (I had to manally tell modprobe to set the card type (18) and tuner type (61), as it does not have an EPROM. Took me forever to figure that out!
>
> The problem arises when I try to do anything with it, though: I've tried a few programs, including mythTV, tvtime and xawtv. I can't find a way to select the TUNER as the input source. The only options are "composite1" or "s-video1". I've got a cheap antenna attached to the antenna connector, and a DTV set-top box attached to the composite input. I can't seem to get any sort of picture to come up on either input, though... Tvtime just gives a black screen, and lets me cycle between composite/s-video. MythTV just dumps me back to the main menu when I try to watch TV. Scanning for channels brings up nothing in Myth setup.
>
> I tried tvtime-scanner, but it fails:
>
> leeko@leeko-media:~$ tvtime-scanner &
> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
> Scanning using TV standard NTSC.
> [1] 6918
> leeko@leeko-media:~$
> No tuner found on input 0. If you have a tuner, please
> select a different input using --input=<num>.
> [1]+ Exit 1 tvtime-scanner
>
> I tried cycling through input=1 through 4, but they didn't work either (2 through 4 give an error about the card not being able to set its input).
>
> Am I doing something wrong? Surely I should see an option to choose the tuner as an input? As far as I can tell, it looks like it should be working!
>
> The only thing I can think of, is that the tuner may actually have originated outside the USA (i.e. the UK). Would that stop it from working with NTSC channels? And even so, should the composite input not still work? (And why can't I even select the tuner!?).
>
> If I do "ls /dev/video*", the only entry is /dev/video0.
>
> Thanks in advance for ANY help you can offer. This is driving me nuts! I've been learning as I go along, but I've hit a brick wall now :(
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lee
>
>
> lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com
>
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* Re: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
2008-08-31 22:11 ` Markus Rechberger
@ 2008-08-31 22:26 ` hermann pitton
2008-08-31 22:36 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-01 13:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: hermann pitton @ 2008-08-31 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Rechberger; +Cc: video4linux-list, alkureishi.lee, Lee Alkureishi
Markus,
Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 00:11 +0200 schrieb Markus Rechberger:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Lee Alkureishi
> <lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Hoping someone on this list can help me with this frustrating problem:
> >
> > I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04, fully updated. I'm trying to set up a USB TV tuner box, and have made progress but haven't quite got it working.
> >
> > The USB box is a Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF. It uses a Empia em2820 chipset, and a Tena TNF-9533-D/IF tuner. Other chips I found under the casing are:
> > RM-KUB03 04AEAAC6, HEF4052BT, TEA5767, SAA7113H.
> >
> > The PCB has the following printed on it: EM2800TV_KW Ver:F
> >
> > I followed the instructions to install v4l using mercurial, and have got it to the point where dmesg shows that the card is recognised and initialised:
> > ------
> > dmesg:
> > [ 1844.847318] usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
> > [ 1844.979744] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> > [ 1844.980718] em28xx new video device (eb1a:2820): interface 0, class 255
> > [ 1844.980727] em28xx: device is attached to a USB 2.0 bus
> > [ 1844.980730] em28xx: you're using the experimental/unstable tree from mcentral.de
> > [ 1844.980732] em28xx: there's also a stable tree available but which is limited to
> > [ 1844.980734] em28xx: linux <=2.6.19.2
> > [ 1844.980736] em28xx: it's fine to use this driver but keep in mind that it will move
> > [ 1844.980738] em28xx: to http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/v4l-dvb-kernel as soon as it's
> > [ 1844.980740] em28xx: proved to be stable
> > [ 1844.980743] em28xx #0: Alternate settings: 8
> > [ 1844.980746] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 0, max size= 0
> > [ 1844.980748] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 1, max size= 1024
> > [ 1844.980750] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 2, max size= 1448
> > [ 1844.980752] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 3, max size= 2048
> > [ 1844.980754] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 4, max size= 2304
> > [ 1844.980756] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 5, max size= 2580
> > [ 1844.980758] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 6, max size= 2892
> > [ 1844.980760] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 7, max size= 3072
> > [ 1845.271190] tuner 1-0060: TEA5767 detected.
> > [ 1845.271199] tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (em28xx #0)
> > [ 1845.271254] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c0
> > [ 1845.271260] tuner 0x60: Configuration acknowledged
> > [ 1845.271266] tuner 1-0060: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
> > [ 1845.272189] tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (em28xx #0)
> > [ 1845.272215] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c2
> > [ 1845.272219] tuner 0x61: Configuration acknowledged
> > [ 1845.272223] tuner 1-0061: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
> > [ 1845.302962] saa7115 1-0025: saa7113 found (1f7113d0e100000) @ 0x4a (em28xx #0)
> > [ 1845.332719] attach_inform: saa7113 detected.
> > [ 1845.346159] em28xx #0: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
> > [ 1845.346173] em28xx #0: Found Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF
> > ----------
> >
>
> please don't use that driver, it'S not maintained anymore either.
>
> can you run:
>
> $ apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r`-generic
>
> for restoring your kernel?
>
> You should safely be able to compile the latest em28xx driver or grab
> debian packages for it (what does uname -r show up?)
>
> $ hg clone http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/em28xx-new
> $ cd em28xx-new
> $ ./build.sh build
> $ ./build.sh install
>
> there's also em28xx at mcentral.de available which has alot
> subscribers who have em28xx based devices, it only deals about Empia
> based devices and appilcations + support for those devices only.
>
> Markus
that tuner won't work for NTSC.
Did you notice my previous reply?
Hermann
>
> > (I had to manally tell modprobe to set the card type (18) and tuner type (61), as it does not have an EPROM. Took me forever to figure that out!
> >
> > The problem arises when I try to do anything with it, though: I've tried a few programs, including mythTV, tvtime and xawtv. I can't find a way to select the TUNER as the input source. The only options are "composite1" or "s-video1". I've got a cheap antenna attached to the antenna connector, and a DTV set-top box attached to the composite input. I can't seem to get any sort of picture to come up on either input, though... Tvtime just gives a black screen, and lets me cycle between composite/s-video. MythTV just dumps me back to the main menu when I try to watch TV. Scanning for channels brings up nothing in Myth setup.
> >
> > I tried tvtime-scanner, but it fails:
> >
> > leeko@leeko-media:~$ tvtime-scanner &
> > Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
> > Scanning using TV standard NTSC.
> > [1] 6918
> > leeko@leeko-media:~$
> > No tuner found on input 0. If you have a tuner, please
> > select a different input using --input=<num>.
> > [1]+ Exit 1 tvtime-scanner
> >
> > I tried cycling through input=1 through 4, but they didn't work either (2 through 4 give an error about the card not being able to set its input).
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong? Surely I should see an option to choose the tuner as an input? As far as I can tell, it looks like it should be working!
> >
> > The only thing I can think of, is that the tuner may actually have originated outside the USA (i.e. the UK). Would that stop it from working with NTSC channels? And even so, should the composite input not still work? (And why can't I even select the tuner!?).
> >
> > If I do "ls /dev/video*", the only entry is /dev/video0.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for ANY help you can offer. This is driving me nuts! I've been learning as I go along, but I've hit a brick wall now :(
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Lee
> >
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* Re: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
2008-08-31 22:26 ` hermann pitton
@ 2008-08-31 22:36 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-08-31 22:44 ` hermann pitton
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From: Markus Rechberger @ 2008-08-31 22:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: hermann pitton; +Cc: video4linux-list, alkureishi.lee, Lee Alkureishi
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:26 AM, hermann pitton <hermann-pitton@arcor.de> wrote:
> Markus,
>
> Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 00:11 +0200 schrieb Markus Rechberger:
>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Lee Alkureishi
>> <lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Hoping someone on this list can help me with this frustrating problem:
>> >
>> > I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04, fully updated. I'm trying to set up a USB TV tuner box, and have made progress but haven't quite got it working.
>> >
>> > The USB box is a Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF. It uses a Empia em2820 chipset, and a Tena TNF-9533-D/IF tuner. Other chips I found under the casing are:
>> > RM-KUB03 04AEAAC6, HEF4052BT, TEA5767, SAA7113H.
>> >
>> > The PCB has the following printed on it: EM2800TV_KW Ver:F
>> >
>> > I followed the instructions to install v4l using mercurial, and have got it to the point where dmesg shows that the card is recognised and initialised:
>> > ------
>> > dmesg:
>> > [ 1844.847318] usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
>> > [ 1844.979744] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>> > [ 1844.980718] em28xx new video device (eb1a:2820): interface 0, class 255
>> > [ 1844.980727] em28xx: device is attached to a USB 2.0 bus
>> > [ 1844.980730] em28xx: you're using the experimental/unstable tree from mcentral.de
>> > [ 1844.980732] em28xx: there's also a stable tree available but which is limited to
>> > [ 1844.980734] em28xx: linux <=2.6.19.2
>> > [ 1844.980736] em28xx: it's fine to use this driver but keep in mind that it will move
>> > [ 1844.980738] em28xx: to http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/v4l-dvb-kernel as soon as it's
>> > [ 1844.980740] em28xx: proved to be stable
>> > [ 1844.980743] em28xx #0: Alternate settings: 8
>> > [ 1844.980746] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 0, max size= 0
>> > [ 1844.980748] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 1, max size= 1024
>> > [ 1844.980750] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 2, max size= 1448
>> > [ 1844.980752] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 3, max size= 2048
>> > [ 1844.980754] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 4, max size= 2304
>> > [ 1844.980756] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 5, max size= 2580
>> > [ 1844.980758] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 6, max size= 2892
>> > [ 1844.980760] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 7, max size= 3072
>> > [ 1845.271190] tuner 1-0060: TEA5767 detected.
>> > [ 1845.271199] tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (em28xx #0)
>> > [ 1845.271254] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c0
>> > [ 1845.271260] tuner 0x60: Configuration acknowledged
>> > [ 1845.271266] tuner 1-0060: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
>> > [ 1845.272189] tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (em28xx #0)
>> > [ 1845.272215] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c2
>> > [ 1845.272219] tuner 0x61: Configuration acknowledged
>> > [ 1845.272223] tuner 1-0061: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
>> > [ 1845.302962] saa7115 1-0025: saa7113 found (1f7113d0e100000) @ 0x4a (em28xx #0)
>> > [ 1845.332719] attach_inform: saa7113 detected.
>> > [ 1845.346159] em28xx #0: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
>> > [ 1845.346173] em28xx #0: Found Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF
>> > ----------
>> >
>>
>> please don't use that driver, it'S not maintained anymore either.
>>
>> can you run:
>>
>> $ apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r`-generic
>>
>> for restoring your kernel?
>>
>> You should safely be able to compile the latest em28xx driver or grab
>> debian packages for it (what does uname -r show up?)
>>
>> $ hg clone http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/em28xx-new
>> $ cd em28xx-new
>> $ ./build.sh build
>> $ ./build.sh install
>>
>> there's also em28xx at mcentral.de available which has alot
>> subscribers who have em28xx based devices, it only deals about Empia
>> based devices and appilcations + support for those devices only.
>>
>> Markus
>
> that tuner won't work for NTSC.
>
> Did you notice my previous reply?
>
sure although I wonder KWorld mostly sells NTSC based hardware as far as I know.
http://www.kworldcomputer.com/product/analog/003/pvr-tv2800u.htm
Lee, can you check if it's about exactly that device?
Markus
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2008-08-31 22:36 ` Markus Rechberger
@ 2008-08-31 22:44 ` hermann pitton
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From: hermann pitton @ 2008-08-31 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Rechberger; +Cc: video4linux-list, alkureishi.lee, Lee Alkureishi
Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 00:36 +0200 schrieb Markus Rechberger:
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:26 AM, hermann pitton <hermann-pitton@arcor.de> wrote:
> > Markus,
> >
> > Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 00:11 +0200 schrieb Markus Rechberger:
> >> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Lee Alkureishi
> >> <lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Hoping someone on this list can help me with this frustrating problem:
> >> >
> >> > I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04, fully updated. I'm trying to set up a USB TV tuner box, and have made progress but haven't quite got it working.
> >> >
> >> > The USB box is a Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF. It uses a Empia em2820 chipset, and a Tena TNF-9533-D/IF tuner. Other chips I found under the casing are:
> >> > RM-KUB03 04AEAAC6, HEF4052BT, TEA5767, SAA7113H.
> >> >
> >> > The PCB has the following printed on it: EM2800TV_KW Ver:F
> >> >
> >> > I followed the instructions to install v4l using mercurial, and have got it to the point where dmesg shows that the card is recognised and initialised:
> >> > ------
> >> > dmesg:
> >> > [ 1844.847318] usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
> >> > [ 1844.979744] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> >> > [ 1844.980718] em28xx new video device (eb1a:2820): interface 0, class 255
> >> > [ 1844.980727] em28xx: device is attached to a USB 2.0 bus
> >> > [ 1844.980730] em28xx: you're using the experimental/unstable tree from mcentral.de
> >> > [ 1844.980732] em28xx: there's also a stable tree available but which is limited to
> >> > [ 1844.980734] em28xx: linux <=2.6.19.2
> >> > [ 1844.980736] em28xx: it's fine to use this driver but keep in mind that it will move
> >> > [ 1844.980738] em28xx: to http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/v4l-dvb-kernel as soon as it's
> >> > [ 1844.980740] em28xx: proved to be stable
> >> > [ 1844.980743] em28xx #0: Alternate settings: 8
> >> > [ 1844.980746] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 0, max size= 0
> >> > [ 1844.980748] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 1, max size= 1024
> >> > [ 1844.980750] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 2, max size= 1448
> >> > [ 1844.980752] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 3, max size= 2048
> >> > [ 1844.980754] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 4, max size= 2304
> >> > [ 1844.980756] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 5, max size= 2580
> >> > [ 1844.980758] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 6, max size= 2892
> >> > [ 1844.980760] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 7, max size= 3072
> >> > [ 1845.271190] tuner 1-0060: TEA5767 detected.
> >> > [ 1845.271199] tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (em28xx #0)
> >> > [ 1845.271254] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c0
> >> > [ 1845.271260] tuner 0x60: Configuration acknowledged
> >> > [ 1845.271266] tuner 1-0060: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
> >> > [ 1845.272189] tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (em28xx #0)
> >> > [ 1845.272215] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c2
> >> > [ 1845.272219] tuner 0x61: Configuration acknowledged
> >> > [ 1845.272223] tuner 1-0061: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
> >> > [ 1845.302962] saa7115 1-0025: saa7113 found (1f7113d0e100000) @ 0x4a (em28xx #0)
> >> > [ 1845.332719] attach_inform: saa7113 detected.
> >> > [ 1845.346159] em28xx #0: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
> >> > [ 1845.346173] em28xx #0: Found Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF
> >> > ----------
> >> >
> >>
> >> please don't use that driver, it'S not maintained anymore either.
> >>
> >> can you run:
> >>
> >> $ apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r`-generic
> >>
> >> for restoring your kernel?
> >>
> >> You should safely be able to compile the latest em28xx driver or grab
> >> debian packages for it (what does uname -r show up?)
> >>
> >> $ hg clone http://mcentral.de/hg/~mrec/em28xx-new
> >> $ cd em28xx-new
> >> $ ./build.sh build
> >> $ ./build.sh install
> >>
> >> there's also em28xx at mcentral.de available which has alot
> >> subscribers who have em28xx based devices, it only deals about Empia
> >> based devices and appilcations + support for those devices only.
> >>
> >> Markus
> >
> > that tuner won't work for NTSC.
> >
> > Did you notice my previous reply?
> >
>
> sure although I wonder KWorld mostly sells NTSC based hardware as far as I know.
>
> http://www.kworldcomputer.com/product/analog/003/pvr-tv2800u.htm
>
> Lee, can you check if it's about exactly that device?
>
> Markus
We have lots of Kworld stuff also for PAL/SECAM on the saa713x.
They have been early in ATSC support ...
But very likely Lee`s device is from the UK.
Cheers,
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* Re: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
[not found] ` <93b129120808311755r2a302043ubb41243134f00a14@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2008-09-01 1:02 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-01 1:52 ` hermann pitton
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From: Markus Rechberger @ 2008-09-01 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lee Alkureishi, video4linux-list
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Lee Alkureishi
<lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Markus and Hermann,
>
> Thanks for the replies. Yes, that is exactly the device that I have. I
> notice that on that specification page, it says both NTSC and PAL are
> supported. Is that possible? If so, should I go ahead and replace the
> driver, or is this device not going to work in the US?
>
let me see I will check back with KWorld.
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2008-09-01 1:02 ` Markus Rechberger
@ 2008-09-01 1:52 ` hermann pitton
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From: hermann pitton @ 2008-09-01 1:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Rechberger; +Cc: video4linux-list, Lee Alkureishi
Am Montag, den 01.09.2008, 03:02 +0200 schrieb Markus Rechberger:
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Lee Alkureishi
> <lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Markus and Hermann,
> >
> > Thanks for the replies. Yes, that is exactly the device that I have. I
> > notice that on that specification page, it says both NTSC and PAL are
> > supported. Is that possible? If so, should I go ahead and replace the
> > driver, or is this device not going to work in the US?
> >
>
> let me see I will check back with KWorld.
>
> Markus
>
My, that is the usual since ever before global silicon tuners did
appear.
It is even far below Philips ME MultiEurope MK3s, 4s, 5s ...
Nothing to check there, old very well known chips are in there baked
together with some "other" discretes including the poorer home brewed
SAW filter.
Cheers,
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* Re: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
2008-08-31 22:11 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-08-31 22:26 ` hermann pitton
@ 2008-09-01 13:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab @ 2008-09-01 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Rechberger; +Cc: video4linux-list, alkureishi.lee, Lee Alkureishi
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:11:07 +0200
"Markus Rechberger" <mrechberger@gmail.com> wrote:
> please don't use that driver, it'S not maintained anymore either.
The driver is maintained.
Cheers,
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* Re: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
2008-08-31 18:26 em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L Lee Alkureishi
2008-08-31 19:12 ` hermann pitton
2008-08-31 22:11 ` Markus Rechberger
@ 2008-09-01 14:03 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2008-09-01 23:10 ` Lee Alkureishi
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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab @ 2008-09-01 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lee Alkureishi; +Cc: video4linux-list, alkureishi.lee
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:26:51 +0100
Lee Alkureishi <lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Hoping someone on this list can help me with this frustrating problem:
>
> I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04, fully updated. I'm trying to set up a USB TV tuner box, and have made progress but haven't quite got it working.
>
> The USB box is a Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF. It uses a Empia em2820 chipset, and a Tena TNF-9533-D/IF tuner. Other chips I found under the casing are:
> RM-KUB03 04AEAAC6, HEF4052BT, TEA5767, SAA7113H.
I have a device with similar chips. All of them are supported. TNF9533-D is PAL, afaik.
> (I had to manally tell modprobe to set the card type (18) and tuner type (61), as it does not have an EPROM. Took me forever to figure that out!
It is possible to add some autodetection for it. Are you using the driver at http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb, right? On its dmesg log, it will print some codes that helps to do some tricks for detecting it, based on I2C scan signature.
> The problem arises when I try to do anything with it, though: I've tried a few programs, including mythTV, tvtime and xawtv. I can't find a way to select the TUNER as the input source. The only options are "composite1" or "s-video1".
It seems that you're selecting a different board type.
> I tried cycling through input=1 through 4, but they didn't work either (2 through 4 give an error about the card not being able to set its input).
The proper procedure is to run an usb snoop tool that allows us to know what is the pinup of certain generic entries used to select between tuner/composite/svideo.
> The only thing I can think of, is that the tuner may actually have originated outside the USA (i.e. the UK). Would that stop it from working with NTSC channels? And even so, should the composite input not still work? (And why can't I even select the tuner!?).
The tuner won't work properly in US, since the analog filters inside the tuner is different. Composite should work fine.
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* RE: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
2008-09-01 14:03 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
@ 2008-09-01 23:10 ` Lee Alkureishi
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From: Lee Alkureishi @ 2008-09-01 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab; +Cc: V4L video4linux list
Dear Mauro,
Thanks for the response. I've done as Markus suggested (reinstalled my kernel, rebooted, then copy-pasted the lines to hg clone the correct driver folder). I then tried to access the tuner/composite/svideo, but am still not getting anything.
I tried as you suggested, using usbview as a snoop tool to find out more about my board. Here is the output:
em28xx
Speed: 480Mb/s (high)
USB Version: 2.00
Device Class: 00(>ifc )
Device Subclass: 00
Device Protocol: 00
Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 64
Number of Configurations: 1
Vendor Id: eb1a
Product Id: 2820
Revision Number: 1.00
Config Number: 1
Number of Interfaces: 1
Attributes: 80
MaxPower Needed: 500mA
Interface Number: 0
Name: em28xx
Alternate Number: 0
Class: ff(vend.)
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: ff
Number of Endpoints: 3
Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 1
Interval: 128ms
Endpoint Address: 82
Direction: in
Attribute: 1
Type: Isoc
Max Packet Size: 0
Interval: 125us
Endpoint Address: 84
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms
Interface Number: 0
Name: em28xx
Alternate Number: 1
Class: ff(vend.)
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: ff
Number of Endpoints: 3
Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 1
Interval: 128ms
Endpoint Address: 82
Direction: in
Attribute: 1
Type: Isoc
Max Packet Size: 1024
Interval: 125us
Endpoint Address: 84
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms
Interface Number: 0
Name: em28xx
Alternate Number: 2
Class: ff(vend.)
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: ff
Number of Endpoints: 3
Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 1
Interval: 128ms
Endpoint Address: 82
Direction: in
Attribute: 1
Type: Isoc
Max Packet Size: 1448
Interval: 125us
Endpoint Address: 84
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms
Interface Number: 0
Name: em28xx
Alternate Number: 3
Class: ff(vend.)
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: ff
Number of Endpoints: 3
Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 1
Interval: 128ms
Endpoint Address: 82
Direction: in
Attribute: 1
Type: Isoc
Max Packet Size: 2048
Interval: 125us
Endpoint Address: 84
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms
Interface Number: 0
Name: em28xx
Alternate Number: 4
Class: ff(vend.)
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: ff
Number of Endpoints: 3
Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 1
Interval: 128ms
Endpoint Address: 82
Direction: in
Attribute: 1
Type: Isoc
Max Packet Size: 2304
Interval: 125us
Endpoint Address: 84
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms
Interface Number: 0
Name: em28xx
Alternate Number: 5
Class: ff(vend.)
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: ff
Number of Endpoints: 3
Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 1
Interval: 128ms
Endpoint Address: 82
Direction: in
Attribute: 1
Type: Isoc
Max Packet Size: 2580
Interval: 125us
Endpoint Address: 84
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms
Interface Number: 0
Name: em28xx
Alternate Number: 6
Class: ff(vend.)
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: ff
Number of Endpoints: 3
Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 1
Interval: 128ms
Endpoint Address: 82
Direction: in
Attribute: 1
Type: Isoc
Max Packet Size: 2892
Interval: 125us
Endpoint Address: 84
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms
Interface Number: 0
Name: em28xx
Alternate Number: 7
Class: ff(vend.)
Sub Class: 00
Protocol: ff
Number of Endpoints: 3
Endpoint Address: 81
Direction: in
Attribute: 3
Type: Int.
Max Packet Size: 1
Interval: 128ms
Endpoint Address: 82
Direction: in
Attribute: 1
Type: Isoc
Max Packet Size: 3072
Interval: 125us
Endpoint Address: 84
Direction: in
Attribute: 2
Type: Bulk
Max Packet Size: 512
Interval: 0ms
--------------------------------
I'm afraid I really don't know what to do with this now. Can you point me toward instructions on how to use this information to correctly set the card/board/tuner type? I understand the tuner may not work with NTSC signals, but I can work just with the composite!
For further info, here is the output of dmesg after I followed Markus instructions (It looks the same to me):
leeko@leeko-media:/lib/firmware/2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo rmmod em28xx
leeko@leeko-media:/lib/firmware/2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo modprobe em28xx card=18 tuner=61
leeko@leeko-media:/lib/firmware/2.6.24-19-generic$ sudo dmesg |tail -40
[ 2590.556703] tuner-simple 1-0061: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
[ 2590.556706] tuner 1-0061: type set to Tena TNF9533-D/IF/T
[ 2590.582521] saa7115 1-0025: saa7113 found (1f7113d0e100000) @ 0x4a (em28xx #0)
[ 2590.613182] attach_inform: saa7113 detected.
[ 2590.626195] em28xx #0: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
[ 2590.626214] em28xx #0: Found KWorld PVR TV 2800 RF
[ 2590.626284] usbcore: registered new interface driver em28xx
[ 4222.550630] usbcore: deregistering interface driver em28xx
[ 4222.550682] em28xx #0: disconnecting em28xx#0 video
[ 4222.550685] em28xx #0: V4L2 VIDEO devices /dev/video0 deregistered
[ 4239.975437] em28xx v4l2 driver version 0.0.1 loaded
[ 4239.980353] em28xx: new video device (eb1a:2820): interface 0, class 255
[ 4239.980362] em28xx: device is attached to a USB 2.0 bus
[ 4239.980838] em28xx #0: Alternate settings: 8
[ 4239.980843] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 0, max size= 0
[ 4239.980845] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 1, max size= 1024
[ 4239.980848] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 2, max size= 1448
[ 4239.980850] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 3, max size= 2048
[ 4239.980852] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 4, max size= 2304
[ 4239.980854] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 5, max size= 2580
[ 4239.980857] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 6, max size= 2892
[ 4239.980859] em28xx #0: Alternate setting 7, max size= 3072
[ 4240.465375] TEA5767 detected.
[ 4240.465389] tuner 1-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (em28xx #0)
[ 4240.465434] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c0
[ 4240.465443] tuner-simple 1-0060: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
[ 4240.465447] tuner 1-0060: type set to Tena TNF9533-D/IF/T
[ 4240.465452] tuner-simple 1-0060: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
[ 4240.465454] tuner 1-0060: type set to Tena TNF9533-D/IF/T
[ 4240.466912] tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (em28xx #0)
[ 4240.466950] attach inform (default): detected I2C address c2
[ 4240.466956] tuner-simple 1-0061: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
[ 4240.466959] tuner 1-0061: type set to Tena TNF9533-D/IF/T
[ 4240.466963] tuner-simple 1-0061: type set to 61 (Tena TNF9533-D/IF/TNF9533-B/DF)
[ 4240.466966] tuner 1-0061: type set to Tena TNF9533-D/IF/T
[ 4240.492244] saa7115 1-0025: saa7113 found (1f7113d0e100000) @ 0x4a (em28xx #0)
[ 4240.523155] attach_inform: saa7113 detected.
[ 4240.530222] em28xx #0: V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
[ 4240.530230] em28xx #0: Found KWorld PVR TV 2800 RF
[ 4240.530257] usbcore: registered new interface driver em28xx
I hope this makes sense to you - I just want to be able to watch TV!
Thanks,
Lee
Lee Alkureishi
lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:03:37 -0300
> From: mchehab@infradead.org
> To: lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com
> CC: video4linux-list@redhat.com; alkureishi.lee@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: em2820, Tena TNF-9533 and V4L
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:26:51 +0100
> Lee Alkureishi <lee_alkureishi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Hoping someone on this list can help me with this frustrating problem:
> >
> > I'm running Mythbuntu 8.04, fully updated. I'm trying to set up a USB TV tuner box, and have made progress but haven't quite got it working.
> >
> > The USB box is a Kworld PVR TV 2800 RF. It uses a Empia em2820 chipset, and a Tena TNF-9533-D/IF tuner. Other chips I found under the casing are:
> > RM-KUB03 04AEAAC6, HEF4052BT, TEA5767, SAA7113H.
>
> I have a device with similar chips. All of them are supported. TNF9533-D is PAL, afaik.
>
> > (I had to manally tell modprobe to set the card type (18) and tuner type (61), as it does not have an EPROM. Took me forever to figure that out!
>
> It is possible to add some autodetection for it. Are you using the driver at http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb, right? On its dmesg log, it will print some codes that helps to do some tricks for detecting it, based on I2C scan signature.
>
> > The problem arises when I try to do anything with it, though: I've tried a few programs, including mythTV, tvtime and xawtv. I can't find a way to select the TUNER as the input source. The only options are "composite1" or "s-video1".
>
> It seems that you're selecting a different board type.
>
> > I tried cycling through input=1 through 4, but they didn't work either (2 through 4 give an error about the card not being able to set its input).
>
> The proper procedure is to run an usb snoop tool that allows us to know what is the pinup of certain generic entries used to select between tuner/composite/svideo.
>
> > The only thing I can think of, is that the tuner may actually have originated outside the USA (i.e. the UK). Would that stop it from working with NTSC channels? And even so, should the composite input not still work? (And why can't I even select the tuner!?).
>
> The tuner won't work properly in US, since the analog filters inside the tuner is different. Composite should work fine.
>
> Cheers,
> Mauro
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