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From: Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org>
To: free_beer_for_all@yahoo.com
Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:54:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48CD41BD.8040508@linuxtv.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564277.58085.qm@web46102.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

barry bouwsma wrote:
> --- On Sun, 9/14/08, Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org> wrote:
> 
>> is that the BSD folks can't port the GPL license into BSD because it's 
>> not compatible.
> 
> I don't want to see any religious war here (trimmed to dvb
> list), but...
> 
> There is GPL code distributed as part of *BSD sources,
> as you can see by reading the licensing in, for example,
> $ ls /lost+found/CVSUP/BSD/FreeBSD.cvs/src/sys/gnu/dev/sound/pci/
> Attic       emu10k1-alsa.h,v  maestro3_reg.h,v  p17v-alsa.h,v
> csaimg.h,v  maestro3_dsp.h,v  p16v-alsa.h,v

Interesting.

> 
> 
>> I owe it to myself to spend somehime reading the BSD licencing. Maybe 
>> the GPL is compatible with BSD.
> 
> It all depends on the intended use -- whether for optional
> kernel components as above.  In the distributions, though,
> it's kept separated.
> 
> It's also possible to dual-licence source, and I see a good
> number of such files in NetBSD under, as an example,
> /lost+found/CVSUP/BSD/NetBSD.cvs/src/sys/dev/ic/

I'm be quite happy to grant a second license on my work the the BSD 
guys, as the copyright owner I can do that. The legal stuff gets messy 
quickly and I don't claim to understand all of it.

I'm an opensource developer, I chose to work on Linux because it's the 
biggest movement. I have no objections to any other projects, in fact I 
welcome them.


> 
> 
> There will be plenty of misinformation and FUD about which
> licensing is better, and I don't want to hear any more such.
> Or debates.  Or evangelism.  Or anything.

Agreed.

> 
> The different BSDen will handle GPLed code differently.
> 
> (By the way, it is possible to completely build NetBSD from
> within Linux, though the DVB code hasn't been merged as of
> this morning my time, if someone with *BSD familiarity here
> wants to think about considering maybe playing with it later
> sometime, perhaps, maybe)

The issue would be your support community. If you're working on linux 
then people here will help, if our working on something else and asking 
for help here - then people will probably be trying to fix linux first, 
so responses to questions may not arrive, or be slow coming.

Still, better TV support in BSD is good news.

- Steve

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-14 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2008-09-09  0:43 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update barry bouwsma
2008-09-09  1:17   ` hermann pitton
2008-09-09 12:02     ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-09 12:12       ` Rudy Zijlstra
2008-09-09 15:33         ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-09 20:59           ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-09 21:14             ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-10  0:02               ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10  0:42               ` [linux-dvb] How to measure API "goodness"? Andy Walls
2008-09-10  3:40                 ` Glenn McGrath
2008-09-10  4:14                   ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11 23:05                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-09-12  1:13                     ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-12  2:32                   ` Andy Walls
2008-09-13 22:46           ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Manu Abraham
2008-09-13 22:56             ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-13 23:31               ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14  2:10                 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 10:51                   ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-14 13:51                     ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 14:29                       ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 14:27                   ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 15:14                     ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-14 15:28                       ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 16:54                       ` Steven Toth [this message]
2008-09-14 19:51                         ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 21:57                           ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 22:03                             ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-14 22:27                               ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 22:33                             ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 22:41                               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-16 16:45                       ` Benny Amorsen
2008-09-16 19:04                         ` [linux-dvb] OT: Dual/BSD Licensing (was: Re: Multiproto API/Driver Update) BOUWSMA Barry
2008-09-16 19:16                           ` [linux-dvb] OT: Dual/BSD Licensing Benny Amorsen
2008-09-14 15:38                 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 17:02                   ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 18:51                     ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 20:08                       ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-15  0:17                         ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 20:45                       ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 21:01                         ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 22:20                           ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 22:36                             ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-15  4:23                             ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 21:03                         ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-15  5:50                         ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-15 15:42                           ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-19 10:58                             ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-19 19:51                               ` VDR User
2008-09-24 16:54                               ` Oliver Endriss
2008-09-15 23:10                           ` Andy Walls
2008-09-16  2:55                             ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14  3:39               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 19:08             ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-14 19:25               ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 20:54                 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-14 21:00                   ` Markus Rechberger
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2008-10-13 15:37                                                                     ` [linux-dvb] Multi-frontend patch merge (TESTERS FEEDBACK) was: Re: [PATCH] S2API: add multifrontend Steven Toth
2008-10-13 16:07                                                                       ` Darron Broad
2008-10-13 16:18                                                                         ` Steven Toth
2008-10-13 21:19                                                                           ` hermann pitton
2008-10-13 23:23                                                                           ` Hans Werner
2008-10-17  1:20                                                                             ` Hans Werner
2008-10-14  5:25                                                                       ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-14 10:42                                                                         ` Darron Broad
2008-10-14 22:06                                                                           ` Steven Toth
2008-10-14 14:57                                                                         ` Steven Toth
2008-10-15 16:44                                                                           ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-10-15 19:23                                                                             ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-15 19:13                                                                           ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-15 19:24                                                                             ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 15:55 [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Otto Kekäläinen
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2008-09-04 18:12 lucian orasanu
2008-09-04 20:41 ` Manu Abraham
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2008-09-04 17:27   ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-04 18:38     ` Goga777
2008-09-04 20:39       ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-04 20:47     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-09-04 23:32       ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-05 13:45         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-07 19:15           ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-07 19:52             ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 11:14               ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-08 12:21                 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 13:19                   ` Halim Sahin
2008-09-08 16:07                     ` Steven Toth
2008-09-08 17:54                       ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 18:19                         ` Hans Werner
2008-09-08 18:25                           ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 18:38                           ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 16:03                 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-08 15:57             ` Steven Toth
2008-09-05 14:32         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-05  1:01       ` hermann pitton
2008-09-05 18:04     ` Francesco Schiavarelli
2008-09-06 11:56       ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 19:45       ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-08 20:37         ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 20:47           ` Jelle De Loecker
2008-09-08 20:54             ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 21:24               ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 22:13                 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 23:22               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-09  8:22                 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-11 20:51                 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-11 22:23                   ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 23:16                     ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-18 19:05                       ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-12  9:17                     ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-18 19:11                       ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-18 19:24                         ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-10  0:52           ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-10  9:16             ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-10 15:40               ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-12 21:43             ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-12 22:35               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 11:15               ` Klaus Schmidinger
2008-09-14 19:15                 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 23:02                 ` Manu Abraham

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