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From: Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com>
To: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] [RFC] SNR units in tuners
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:40:40 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4905EF08.6070405@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1225122896.3124.13.camel@palomino.walls.org>

Andy Walls wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 15:03 +0100, Georg Acher wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:37:52AM +0000, Morgan Tørvolt wrote:
>>  
>>> As I used to work with satellite signals on an earth station, and was
>>> responsible for the development of measurement techniques, I thought I
>>> should join in here for some hopefully revelaing info.
>>>
>>> I am guessing here of course, but I believe that there is no real SNR
>>> measurement in any of the tuners available for computers.


True, most demodulators do provide a CNR from which SNR can be
calculated out. CNR is measured from the early stages, while SNR is
measured out from the final stages.


>> My guess is that it is possible. Actually, it is quite easy for QPSK ;-) You
>> only need to calculate the distance of the IQ-value from the ideal symbol
>> center ( (sqrt(0.5),sqrt(0.5)) or whatever) after the
>> rotator/retiming-block.
>>
> 
> Isn't that just Error Vector Magnitude (EVM)?

Not only that, by the time a driver reads that through a slow bus such
as I2C (of course not to be forgotten about other delays: inherent to
demodulator internals) though it can be used to evaluate SNR on the
demodulator IP core, the events being at 2 distinct points of time as it
is not RT wrt the driver, i guess it makes no sense.


Regards,
Manu

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-27 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-17 18:04 [linux-dvb] [RFC] SNR units in tuners Devin Heitmueller
2008-10-17 18:13 ` Steven Toth
2008-10-17 19:55 ` Darron Broad
2008-10-17 20:06   ` Devin Heitmueller
2008-10-18  5:42     ` Darron Broad
2008-10-19 19:54       ` Georg Acher
2008-10-19 20:43         ` Darron Broad
2008-10-19 21:52           ` Georg Acher
2008-10-19 23:40             ` Darron Broad
2008-10-20  0:01       ` Darron Broad
2008-10-18 18:56     ` Richard Scobie
2008-10-17 22:01 ` Patrick Boettcher
2008-10-18 18:36 ` Trent Piepho
2008-10-18 19:38 ` Matthias Schwarzott
2008-10-19 11:46   ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-25 14:59 ` wk
2008-10-27 10:37   ` Morgan Tørvolt
2008-10-27 14:03     ` Georg Acher
2008-10-27 15:54       ` Andy Walls
2008-10-27 16:16         ` Morgan Tørvolt
2008-10-27 16:25           ` Georg Acher
2008-10-27 16:40         ` Manu Abraham [this message]
2009-08-07  7:04           ` VDR User

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