From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mxweblb04fl.versatel.de ([89.246.255.245]:50610 "EHLO mxweblb04fl.versatel.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753260AbZATSVZ (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:21:25 -0500 Received: from ens28fl.versatel.de (ens28fl.versatel.de [82.140.32.10]) by mxweblb04fl.versatel.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0KILN1u013010 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:21:23 +0100 Received: from cinnamon-sage.de (i577A1251.versanet.de [87.122.18.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by ens28fl.versatel.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id n0KILMGE025443 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:21:22 +0100 Received: from 192.168.23.2:49413 by cinnamon-sage.de for ; 20.01.2009 19:21:22 Message-ID: <49761614.2060708@cinnamon-sage.de> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:21:08 +0100 From: Lars Hanisch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-media@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Cross-posting linux-media, linux-dvb etc References: <20090119204724.01826924@caramujo.chehab.org> <003101c97ada$168d54b0$f4c6a5c1@tommy> <200901200956.25104.ajurik@quick.cz> <412bdbff0901200724v1c981f45te3558256571597a6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <412bdbff0901200724v1c981f45te3558256571597a6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Devin Heitmueller wrote: > People "in favor" of the lists being merged > 118 Patrick Boettcher > 205 Hans Verkuil > 38 Mike Isely > 196 Devin Heitmueller > "hundreds" Mauro Carvalho Chehab > > People "against" of the lists being merged > 2 Lars Hanisch > 17 user.vdr > 16 Klaus Schmidinger > 2 Bob Cunningham > 10 Tomas Drajsajtl > 17 Ales Jurik Just for the records: I'm "in favor" of the merge, not against... Or have I missunderstood the post I replied to? Never mind. :) > Yup, it's the developers who are posting on a regular basis who feel > the pain of the two different lists. It's the people who are actively > replying to issues, dealing with problems, and trying to keep track of > it all who want the lists merged. That said, I personally don't feel > any guilt in inconveniencing a few users who are not contributing if > it makes it easier for the people who contribute to the list on a > daily basis. I'm a "user-only" of my PVR150/350 since about 2 years and I read these lists (ivtv-devel, ivtv-users, video4linux, and now linux-media) because I want to stay in touch with the really good work you developers are doing (also a "Thank you" from my wife, who loves our VDR). And I want to know when some of the issues I encounter are solved, so I can update my kernel. Sadly I haven't the time to invest my development-knowledge into linux-driver-development (my daily work is application-development, and yes, it's windows, shame on me ;-)). So, if the lists get merged or not, I still will be reading them. I just want to give a view from a passive reader. And from that point of view a merge would be fine... But I agree that the main developers should be the ones that have the final stay on this. Lars.