From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Adam Baker <linux@baker-net.org.uk>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
Jean-Francois Moine <moinejf@free.fr>,
kilgota@banach.math.auburn.edu, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
Olivier Lorin <o.lorin@laposte.net>
Subject: Re: Adding a control for Sensor Orientation
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:55:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49973DDB.7000109@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902142048.51863.linux@baker-net.org.uk>
Adam Baker wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Hans Verkuil put forward a convincing argument that sensor orientation
> shouldn't be part of the buffer flags as then it would be unavailable to
> clients that use read()
Yes and this is a bogus argument, clients using read also do not get things
like timestamps, and vital information like which field is in the read buffer
when dealing with interleaved sources. read() is a simple interface for simple
applications. Given that the only user of these flags will likely be libv4l I
*strongly* object to having this info in some control, it is not a control, it
is a per frame (on some cams) information about how to interpret that frame,
the buffer flags is a very logical place, *the* logical place even for this!
The fact that there is no way to transport metadata about a frame like flags,
but also timestamp and field! Is a problem with the read interface in general,
iow read() is broken wrt to this. If people care add some ioctl or something
which users of read() can use to get the buffer metadata from the last read()
buffer, stuffing buffer metadata in a control (barf), because of read()
brokenness is a very *bad* idea, and won't work in general due to
synchronization problems.
Doing this as a control will be a pain to implement both at the driver level,
see the discussion this is causing, and in libv4l. For libv4l this will basicly
mean polling the control. And hello polling is lame and something from the
1980-ies.
Please just make this a buffer flag.
Thank you,
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-14 21:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-14 20:48 Adding a control for Sensor Orientation Adam Baker
2009-02-14 21:04 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-14 21:55 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2009-02-14 21:59 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-14 22:44 ` kilgota
2009-02-15 9:08 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-15 9:19 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-15 9:29 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-15 13:03 ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-15 13:46 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-15 23:09 ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-16 1:46 ` kilgota
2009-02-16 3:47 ` hermann pitton
2009-02-16 3:55 ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-16 8:30 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-16 2:26 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-16 4:04 ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-16 7:44 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-16 8:37 ` Hans de Goede
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-16 8:33 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-16 22:36 ` Adam Baker
2009-02-17 2:00 ` kilgota
2009-02-17 7:27 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-17 22:29 ` Adam Baker
2009-02-16 8:57 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-16 9:07 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-16 9:44 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-16 11:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-16 12:19 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-16 14:20 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-16 15:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-16 15:24 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-16 11:01 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-16 11:12 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2009-02-16 12:07 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-16 12:02 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-16 14:00 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-16 14:25 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-16 16:09 ` Trent Piepho
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