From: Tobias Stoeber <tobi@to-st.de>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: POLL: for/against dropping support for kernels < 2.6.22
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:51:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49AAE742.8090101@to-st.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902221115.01464.hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Hi all,
Hans Verkuil schrieb:
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explanation to
> your standpoint. It doesn't matter if you are a user or developer, I'd like
> to see your opinion regardless.
>
> Please DO NOT reply to the replies, I'll summarize the results in a week's
> time and then we can discuss it further.
>
> Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
>
X : Yes
> _: No
>
> Optional question:
>
> Why:
I am voting for "Yes" because ...
a) developers complain about technical reasons (changes to i2c etc.)
which - in the words of the developers - make it harder to provide a
backward compatibility. This is a valid reason.
b) I hope, that the resources freed will leed to a better v4l / dvb
subsystem (and to surrounding tasks as, for instance, having
documentation that is in line with the state of development etc.)
Maybe this also frees time, to really think about the direction of
subsystem and whether it must be really depended that much to specific
kernel versions, especially for devices like USB.
c) in the end: it would also not be of any value to insist on support
for older kernels, because the users are dependend on developers and in
some way in "their hands" ...
d) I furthermore hope, that there will be snapshots (as archives)
provided to allow for more recent device support to pre-2.6.22 kernel
users (as provided by the kernel itself)
It should a least be stated (in the wiki) which devices are supported
from what kernel version upwards, so users then can select - as it
always has been - older hardware.
In the end, the process of having a poll including the question of "Why"
gives an interesting view into how - at least some - developers and
"users" see the facts and what hopes expactations exist.
In a way I am a bit shocked about some of the replies, which - just my
personal opinion - placed ease and development speed above the users
(and I don't have in mind those "users" here, who have a broad technical
knowledge and resources to *really* know what they are doing when
upgrading to recent or even git kernels!) of this "product" of development.
Regards, Tobias
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-01 19:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-22 10:15 POLL: for/against dropping support for kernels < 2.6.22 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-22 19:12 ` CityK
2009-02-22 23:52 ` Andy Walls
2009-02-23 4:28 ` [Bulk] " CityK
2009-02-22 22:56 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2009-02-22 23:27 ` kilgota
2009-02-23 1:13 ` hermann pitton
2009-02-23 6:41 ` Robert Golding
2009-02-23 8:32 ` VDR User
2009-02-23 12:26 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-23 14:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-02-23 14:48 ` Douglas Schilling Landgraf
2009-02-23 14:53 ` David Ellingsworth
2009-02-24 5:04 ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-24 7:25 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-24 13:12 ` Ales Jurik
2009-02-24 20:19 ` Hans Verkuil
2009-02-24 20:43 ` Jonathan Johnson
2009-02-25 0:06 ` Markus Rechberger
2009-02-25 3:24 ` Markus Rechberger
2009-02-25 0:01 ` Simeon Simeonov
2009-02-24 20:40 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2009-02-24 21:02 ` Michael Krufky
2009-02-24 23:37 ` hermann pitton
2009-02-25 0:52 ` Ant
2009-02-25 8:23 ` Simon Kenyon
2009-02-25 12:31 ` Simon Kenyon
2009-02-25 17:58 ` wk
2009-02-25 18:19 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2009-02-25 19:10 ` Hans Werner
2009-02-25 19:32 ` Lars Hanisch
2009-02-26 5:26 ` Mike Isely
2009-02-27 2:25 ` Magnus Damm
2009-03-01 19:51 ` Tobias Stoeber [this message]
2009-03-01 21:50 ` Adrian Pardini
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-23 1:24 sonofzev
2009-02-23 13:49 Jean Delvare
2009-02-23 13:54 ` Trent Piepho
2009-02-24 11:56 ` John Pilkington
2009-02-24 20:41 ` Simon Kenyon
[not found] ` <49A3DDFC.6010608@tesco.net>
2009-02-24 13:15 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-24 14:34 ` John Pilkington
2009-02-23 14:09 Hans Verkuil
2009-02-25 8:35 Hans Verkuil
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