* DVB USB stream parameters
@ 2009-09-05 13:20 Antti Palosaari
2009-09-10 15:44 ` Patrick Boettcher
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From: Antti Palosaari @ 2009-09-05 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Heinrich Langos
What are preferred BULK stream parameters, .count and .buffersize?
for USB2.0?
for USB1.1?
buffersize, which is URB size, have great effect to system load. For
example 512 bytes generates about 10x more wakeups than 5120. It is
quite clear that 512 is too small for whole DVB stream. I did some test
and looks like all USB2.0 devices I have here allow x512 or x188 sizes.
Heinrich Langos did some measurements and results can be seen here:
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/User:Hlangos
In my understanding we should found some balance between URB size and
transferred stream bandwidth. For example DVB-T stream, when common
transmission parameters are used, is more than 20Mbit/sec.
There is also USB bridge chips which does have two or more different
standard frontends needed different stream bandwidths.
Should we add new module param for override module default?
a800 BULK 7x 4096= 28672
af9005 BULK 10x 4096= 40960 USB1.1 BUGFIX: x512=>x188
af9015 BULK 6x 3072= 3072 BUGFIX: x512=>x188
anysee BULK 8x 512= 4096
ce6230 BULK 6x 512= 3072
cinergyT2 BULK 5x 512= 2560
cxusb BULK 5x 8192= 40960
cxusb BULK 7x 4096= 28672
dib0700 BULK 4x39480=157920 210x188 !!HUGE!!
dibusb-mb BULK 7x 4096= 28672 56x512
dibusb-mc BULK 7x 4096= 28672
digitv BULK 7x 4096= 28672
dtt200u BULK 7x 4096= 28672
dtv5100 BULK 8x 4096= 32768
dw2102 BULK 8x 4096= 32768
gl861 BULK 7x 512= 3584
gp8psk BULK 7x 8192= 57344
m920x BULK 8x 512= 4096
m920x BULK 8x16384=131072 256x512 !!HUGE!!
nova-t-usb2 BULK 7x 4096= 28672
opera1 BULK 10x 4096= 40960
umt-010 BULK 10x 512= 5120
vp702x BULK 10x 4096= 40960
vp7045 BULK 7x 4096= 28672
au6610 ISOC 5 frames 40 size 942
ttusb2 ISOC 5 frames 4 size 942
regards
Antti
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* Re: DVB USB stream parameters
2009-09-05 13:20 DVB USB stream parameters Antti Palosaari
@ 2009-09-10 15:44 ` Patrick Boettcher
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From: Patrick Boettcher @ 2009-09-10 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Antti Palosaari; +Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Heinrich Langos
Hi Antti,
sorry for answering with delay.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> What are preferred BULK stream parameters, .count and .buffersize?
>
> for USB2.0?
> for USB1.1?
>
> buffersize, which is URB size, have great effect to system load. For example
> 512 bytes generates about 10x more wakeups than 5120. It is quite clear that
> 512 is too small for whole DVB stream. I did some test and looks like all
> USB2.0 devices I have here allow x512 or x188 sizes.
> Heinrich Langos did some measurements and results can be seen here:
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/User:Hlangos
>
> In my understanding we should found some balance between URB size and
> transferred stream bandwidth. For example DVB-T stream, when common
> transmission parameters are used, is more than 20Mbit/sec.
>
> There is also USB bridge chips which does have two or more different standard
> frontends needed different stream bandwidths.
>
> Should we add new module param for override module default?
>
> a800 BULK 7x 4096= 28672
> af9005 BULK 10x 4096= 40960 USB1.1 BUGFIX: x512=>x188
> af9015 BULK 6x 3072= 3072 BUGFIX: x512=>x188
> anysee BULK 8x 512= 4096
> ce6230 BULK 6x 512= 3072
> cinergyT2 BULK 5x 512= 2560
> cxusb BULK 5x 8192= 40960
> cxusb BULK 7x 4096= 28672
> dib0700 BULK 4x39480=157920 210x188 !!HUGE!!
> dibusb-mb BULK 7x 4096= 28672 56x512
> dibusb-mc BULK 7x 4096= 28672
> digitv BULK 7x 4096= 28672
> dtt200u BULK 7x 4096= 28672
> dtv5100 BULK 8x 4096= 32768
> dw2102 BULK 8x 4096= 32768
> gl861 BULK 7x 512= 3584
> gp8psk BULK 7x 8192= 57344
> m920x BULK 8x 512= 4096
> m920x BULK 8x16384=131072 256x512 !!HUGE!!
> nova-t-usb2 BULK 7x 4096= 28672
> opera1 BULK 10x 4096= 40960
> umt-010 BULK 10x 512= 5120
> vp702x BULK 10x 4096= 40960
> vp7045 BULK 7x 4096= 28672
>
> au6610 ISOC 5 frames 40 size 942
> ttusb2 ISOC 5 frames 4 size 942
I don't know exactly why (the USB/HW background for that is not present in
my brain), but at some point having less than 39480B for one (high-level)
URB for the dib0700 resulted in never having any URB returning from the
USB stack. I chose 4 of them because .. I don't remember. It seems even 1
is working.
I remember someone telling me that this is due to something in the
firmware. I need to wait for some people to be back from whereever they
are to know exactly what's going on (that's why I haven't responded yet).
--
Patrick
http://www.kernellabs.com/
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* Re: DVB USB stream parameters
2009-05-22 13:30 Nova-T 500 does not survive reboot Soeren Moch
@ 2009-09-14 10:22 ` Soeren Moch
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Soeren Moch @ 2009-09-14 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pboettcher; +Cc: linux-media
> I don't know exactly why (the USB/HW background for that is not
> present in my brain), but at some point having less than 39480B for
> one (high-level) URB for the dib0700 resulted in never having any URB
> returning from the USB stack. I chose 4 of them because .. I don't
> remember. It seems even 1 is working.
I vote for a single high-level URB. Besides the memory savings this is
the only way I could get my nova-td stick working.
(see this thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg06376.html )
The patch runs flawlessly
on my vdr system for months now.
> I remember someone telling me that this is due to something in the
> firmware. I need to wait for some people to be back from whereever
> they are to know exactly what's going on (that's why I haven't
> responded yet).
I hope you can sort out the dib0700_streaming_ctrl problems...
Soeren
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