From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mail.tmr.com ([64.65.253.246]:53922 "EHLO partygirl.tmr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1761630AbZJMXxR (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:53:17 -0400 Message-ID: <4AD512B9.2060909@tmr.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:52:25 -0400 From: Bill Davidsen MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab CC: Markus Rechberger , Simon Kenyon , linux-media@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Hauppage WinTV-HVR-900H References: <4ACDF829.3010500@xfce.org> <37219a840910080545v72165540v622efd43574cf085@mail.gmail.com> <4ACDFED9.30606@xfce.org> <829197380910080745j3015af10pbced2a7e04c7595b@mail.gmail.com> <4ACE2D5B.4080603@xfce.org> <829197380910080928t30fc0ecas7f9ab2a7d8437567@mail.gmail.com> <4ACEED7D.10302@koala.ie> <4ACFB218.5040608@koala.ie> <20091010085626.377f7daf@pedra.chehab.org> In-Reply-To: <20091010085626.377f7daf@pedra.chehab.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:24:57 +0200 > Markus Rechberger escreveu: > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Simon Kenyon wrote: >> >>> Markus Rechberger wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Available from 20th Oct on so in 11 days. There are not many >>>> competitive devices (none) available for >>>> linux which deliver such support. On the other side it's not kernel >>>> based either, it's entirely in userspace. >>>> It's also entirely supported by all participating companies. >>>> >>> this is a mailing list for the open source dvb drivers >>> you are talking about a closed source solution >>> what does your solution have to do with linuxtv.org? >>> >>> >> I see linux-media, you can find the sources of a patched tvtime version on the >> website. >> It shows an alternative way how to integrate usb chipsolutions in linux. >> Aside of that the official DVB(3/5)/V4L(1/2) API has been reviewed >> through our work and bugreports have been >> submitted to various places (linux media, some linux distributions). >> It integrates >> flawlessly and helps to improve the overall media support with linux. >> >> The posting was pointing out to Ali's email that he was looking >> for a working analog TV solution for France. He has bought this >> Pinnacle device 3 years ago, >> the vendor does not care about support for it. >> We provide solutions which work within a few seconds, nevermind what >> distribution. >> > > Your business is so bad that you can't even pay to an adds on some magazine, for > you to spam the open source mailing lists as a desperate trial to sell a single > unit of your product? > > Please stop spamming. > The answer was responsive to the question, a couple of links to software which might serve. I would think your going off about it was further off-topic, it certainly didn't help the O.P. any. When someone ends a question with "please help" I would assume that any answer would be better than "we're working on it." Answering an on-topic question with a short list of links is hardly "spamming" or even advertising, it's called being polite and helpful. I would rather run commercial software on Linux that open source on Windows, thanks, if those are the choices. After several months of looking I have yet to find any video app that a typical office worker can use. Something no more complex than xawtv, which has been running fine on FC4 and FC6 for these folks. I would certainly consider a commercial solution rather than have them go back to the dark side of the force and Windows-7. -- Bill Davidsen Unintended results are the well-earned reward for incompetence.