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From: Jan Hoogenraad <jan-conceptronic@hoogenraad.net>
To: Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>,
	Jan Hoogenraad <jan-conceptronic@hoogenraad.net>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Organizing ALL device data in linuxtv wiki
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:28:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AFDC16E.3040103@hoogenraad.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091113181023.GA31295@www.viadmin.org>

H. Langos wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:45:07AM -0500, Devin Heitmueller wrote:

>> The challenge you run into there is that every driver organizes its
>> table of products differently, and the driver source code does not
>> expose what features the device supports in any easily easily parsed
>> manner.  Also, it does not indicate what the hardware supports which
>> is not supported by the Linux driver.
>>
>> So for example, you can have a hybrid USB device that supports
>> ATSC/QAM and analog NTSC.  The driver won't really tell you these
>> things, nor will it tell you that the hardware also supports IR but
>> the Linux driver does not.
>>
>> It's one of those ideas that sounds reasonable until you look at how
>> the actual code defines devices.
> 
> Yeap. I agree whole heartedly. For some simle drivers you can read that
> information from the source. But most drivers support e.g. more than one
> tuner and the information which device has which tuner, is not part of
> the driver anymore. Rather the driver looks onto the device's i2c bus
> to find out which tuner is present. At least this is what I gathered
> from browsing through the driver code in order to get my device 
> table up to date. (see
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:DVB-T_USB_Devices#Adding_supported_devices_from_kernel_sources
> ) I don't actually have a clue. So don't take my word for it.
> 
> cheers
> -henrik

I agree, now you spell it out.

I first thought that at least the names of the supported devices should 
be readable from the code.
All supported USB IDs can be found easily from

grep -i  dvb /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.usbmap | sed -e 
's/0x0000.*$//' -e 's/ 0x0003/ /' -e 's/^.*://'

As the code lists names for each device, I would expect there would be 
an utility like
lsusb -v -d xxxx:xxxx
to list the names from the .devices = sections , just like depmod scans 
the device IDs.

However, I have not found such a utility.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-13 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-12 17:31 Organizing ALL device data in linuxtv wiki H. Langos
2009-11-12 19:27 ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-12 19:29   ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-13 16:08 ` [linux-dvb] " H. Langos
2009-11-13 16:38   ` Jan Hoogenraad
2009-11-13 16:45     ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-11-13 18:10       ` H. Langos
2009-11-13 20:28         ` Jan Hoogenraad [this message]
2009-11-19 16:48     ` H. Langos

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