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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andy Walls <awalls@radix.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	jeff@garzik.org, mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	cl@linux-foundation.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	arjan@linux.intel.com, avi@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	andi@firstfloor.org, fweisbec@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/21] workqueue: simple reimplementation of SINGLE_THREAD workqueue
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:12:03 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B02CB53.9020708@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0911170701480.9384@localhost.localdomain>

Hello, Linus.

11/18/2009 12:05 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> Do you think that usage is wide-spread?  Implementing strict ordering
>> shouldn't be too difficult but I can't help but feeling that such
>> assumption is abuse of implementation detail.
> 
> I think it would be good if it were more than an implementation detail, 
> and was something documented and known.
> 
> The less random and timing-dependent our interfaces are, the better off we 
> are. Guaranteeing that a single-threaded workqueue is done in order seems 
> to me to be a GoodThing(tm), regardless of whether much code depends on 
> it.
> 
> Of course, if there is some fundamental reason why it wouldn't be the 
> case, that's another thing. But if you think uit should be easy, and since 
> there _are_ users, then it shouldn't be seen as an "implementation 
> detail". It's a feature.

I might have been too early with the 'easy' part but I definitely can
give it a shot.  What do you think about the scheduler notifier
implementation?  It seems we'll end up with three callbacks.  It can
either be three hlist_heads in the struct_task linking each ops or
single hilst_head links ops tables (like the current preempt
notifiers).  Which one should I go with?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-17 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1258391726-30264-1-git-send-email-tj@kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <1258391726-30264-18-git-send-email-tj@kernel.org>
2009-11-17  0:47   ` [PATCH 17/21] workqueue: simple reimplementation of SINGLE_THREAD workqueue Andy Walls
2009-11-17  5:23     ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-17 12:05       ` Andy Walls
2009-11-17 16:21         ` Tejun Heo
2009-11-17 15:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-11-17 16:12         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-11-17 19:01           ` Linus Torvalds

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