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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	awalls@radix.net, j@jannau.net, jarod@redhat.com,
	jarod@wilsonet.com, khc@pm.waw.pl, linux-input@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	lirc-list@lists.sourceforge.net, superm1@ubuntu.com,
	Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@bartelmus.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] Another approach to IR
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:54:20 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B16D3FC.6070702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733910912021057s3e4ec06an906e3fb0d32aa301@mail.gmail.com>

Jon Smirl wrote:
> Some major use cases:
> using IR as a keyboard replacement, controlling X and apps with it in
> via mouse and keyboard emulation.
> using IR to control a headless embedded device possibly running
> multiple apps - like audio and home automation (my app)
> IR during boot when it is the only input device the box has.
> multifunction remote controlling several apps
> using several different remotes to control a single app

I think you reasonably described the major usecases.

>>> If everyone hates configfs the same mapping can be done via the set
>>> keys IOCTL and making changes to the user space apps like loadkeys.
>>>
>> It is not the hate of configfs per se, but rather concern that configfs
>> takes too much resources and is not normally enabled.
> 
> It adds about 35K on 64b x86. 30K on 32b powerpc. If it gets turned on
> by default other subsystems might start using it too. I work on an
> embedded system. These arguments about non-swapable vs swapable are
> pointless. Embedded systems don't have swap devices.

> Of course config can be eliminated by modifying the setkeys IOCTL and
> user space tools. It will require some more mods to input to allow
> multiple maps monitoring the input stream and splitting them onto
> multiple evdev devices. This is an equally valid way of building the
> maps.
> 
> The code I posted is just demo code. It is clearly not in shape to be
> merged. Its purpose was to spark a design discussion around creating a
> good long-term architecture for IR.

Unfortunately, afaik, most distros don't enable configfs yet. I have to
manually compile my kernel when I need some useful stuff there.

I agree with Dmitry: IR is probably not enough to have this enabled by
default on distros. I prefer a more traditional approach like ioctls 
(and/or sysfs) instead of configfs.

Cheers,
Mauro.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-02 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-01 15:08 [RFC v2] Another approach to IR Jon Smirl
2009-12-01 15:47 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-12-01 16:16   ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-01 17:03     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 17:09       ` Devin Heitmueller
2009-12-01 17:29         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 17:54           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-01 19:00             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 19:27               ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-01 20:11               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-01 21:05                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02  9:38                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 12:44                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 17:10                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 17:30                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 18:23                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 18:57                             ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 20:54                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2009-12-02 19:22                           ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 19:56                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 20:04                               ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 20:14                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 20:23                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 20:53                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 21:13                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 16:03                                         ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-12-03 16:33                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 16:50                                             ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-03 17:19                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 17:31                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-04 16:11                                               ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-12-02 20:42                                   ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 20:48                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 20:57                                       ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 21:12                                         ` Trent Piepho
2009-12-02 21:28                                           ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-02 21:40                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 18:06                                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-03  1:19                                   ` Andy Walls
2009-12-03  2:27                                     ` hermann pitton
2009-12-03  0:20                                 ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-03  2:22                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03  5:08                                     ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-03 11:09                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 18:18                                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-12-03 20:54                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03  2:48                                   ` Trent Piepho
2009-12-03  4:13                                     ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-03  5:18                                       ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-03 11:20                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 19:48                                   ` alhaz
2009-12-02 19:33                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 19:50                           ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 19:58                             ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 20:47                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 19:55                           ` Jarod Wilson
2009-12-03  1:02                             ` Andy Walls
2009-12-03 10:00                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-03 12:02                                 ` Andy Walls
2009-12-03 11:09                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-02 20:01                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 15:37                     ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-02 17:00                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-02 11:26                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-02 12:45                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 17:35         ` Patrick Boettcher
2009-12-01 17:41           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-12-01 18:19       ` Jon Smirl
2009-12-01 17:37   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-03 17:08 Emmanuel Fusté
2009-12-03 17:56 Emmanuel Fusté
2009-12-03 18:01 Emmanuel Fusté

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