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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Oberritter <obi@linuxtv.org>
Cc: Andy Walls <awalls@radix.net>,
	hermann pitton <hermann-pitton@arcor.de>,
	Chicken Shack <chicken.shack@gmx.de>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Need to discuss method for multiple, multiple-PID TS's from same demux (Re: Videotext application crashes the kernel due to DVB-demux patch)
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:07:57 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B6C88AD.4010708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B6C7F1B.7080100@linuxtv.org>

Andreas Oberritter wrote:
> Andy Walls wrote:

>>> As Honza noted, these ioctls are used by enigma2 and, in general, by
>>> software running on Dream Multimedia set top boxes.
>> Right, so reverting the patch is not an option.
>>
>> It also makes implementing multiple dvr0.n nodes for a demux0 device
>> node probably a waste of time at this point.
> 
> I think so, too. But I guess it's always worth discussing alternatives.

If this discussion happened before 2.6.32 release, and provided that a different
implementation were agreed, things would be easier, as a different solution like
your proposal could be decided and used.

Now, we have already a regression on a stable kernel, and solving it by
creating another regression is not something smart to do.

>From what I understood, the regression appeared on an old, orphan
application with a non-official patch applied on it. Other applications with
similar features weren't affected. On the other hand, if the patch got reverted, 
we'll break a maintained application that is used on a great number of devices,
and whose features depend on the new ioctls.

We are too late in -rc cycle, so probably there's not enough time for
writing, test, validate any new API in time for 2.6.33 and write some compat
layer to emulate those two ioctls with a different implementation.

So, removing those two ioctls is not an option anymore.


Cheers,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-05 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-01  9:56 Videotext application crashes the kernel due to DVB-demux patch Chicken Shack
2010-02-01 12:41 ` Andy Walls
2010-02-02  2:00   ` Andy Walls
2010-02-02  9:11     ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-02 12:52       ` Andy Walls
2010-02-03  1:01         ` hermann pitton
2010-02-04 12:54           ` Andy Walls
2010-02-04 14:07             ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-05  2:21               ` Need to discuss method for multiple, multiple-PID TS's from same demux (Re: Videotext application crashes the kernel due to DVB-demux patch) Andy Walls
2010-02-05  2:37                 ` hermann pitton
2010-02-05 11:39                 ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-05 12:19                   ` HoP
2010-02-05 18:29                     ` Andy Walls
2010-02-05 13:19                 ` Andreas Oberritter
2010-02-05 13:28                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-05 13:58                     ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-05 15:31                     ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-05 19:22                   ` Andy Walls
2010-02-05 20:27                     ` Andreas Oberritter
2010-02-05 21:07                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2010-02-05 21:46                         ` hermann pitton
2010-02-05 22:32                         ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-05 23:12                           ` hermann pitton
2010-02-05 23:39                             ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-06  0:25                               ` hermann pitton
2010-02-06  8:55                                 ` "However, if you don't want to lose your freedom, you had better not follow him." " Chicken Shack
2010-02-07  3:58                                   ` hermann pitton
2010-02-07 12:11                                     ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-07 14:43                                     ` Andy Walls
2010-02-07 15:29                                       ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-07 18:10                                         ` HoP
2010-02-07 18:46                                           ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-07 19:13                                             ` HoP
2010-02-07 19:41                                               ` Chicken Shack
2010-02-06 12:02                                 ` Need to discuss method for multiple, multiple-PID TS's from same demux " BOUWSMA Barry
2010-03-11  4:00                                   ` hermann pitton
2010-02-01 13:02 ` Videotext application crashes the kernel due to DVB-demux patch Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-02-01 13:59   ` Chicken Shack

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