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[Adriano Gigante]

Hi Devin,
> The 0ccd:0043 is on my todo list of devices to work on (they sent me a
> sample board), although it's not the highest priority on my list given
> how old it is.
>    
Did they sent you also a 0ccd:0072 card (Terratec Cinergy Hybrid T USB 
XS FM)?
Adri

Re: Info

[Devin Heitmueller]

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Adriano Gigante <adrigiga@yahoo.it> wrote:
> Hi Devin,
>>
>> The 0ccd:0043 is on my todo list of devices to work on (they sent me a
>> sample board), although it's not the highest priority on my list given
>> how old it is.
>>
>
> Did they sent you also a 0ccd:0072 card (Terratec Cinergy Hybrid T USB XS
> FM)?
> Adri

Terratec sent me two boards:  0ccd:0072 and 0ccd:0043.  I've actually
been working with a user on the #linuxtv irc channel who is in the
process of getting the 0ccd:0072 board to work (username Prahal).
He's making great progress, but if he gets stuck I will find some
cycles to work through whatever problem he finds.

Cheers,

Devin

-- 
Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs
http://www.kernellabs.com

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[Markus Rechberger]

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Devin Heitmueller
<dheitmueller@kernellabs.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Adriano Gigante <adrigiga@yahoo.it> wrote:
>> Hi Devin,
>>>
>>> The 0ccd:0043 is on my todo list of devices to work on (they sent me a
>>> sample board), although it's not the highest priority on my list given
>>> how old it is.
>>>
>>
>> Did they sent you also a 0ccd:0072 card (Terratec Cinergy Hybrid T USB XS
>> FM)?
>> Adri
>
> Terratec sent me two boards:  0ccd:0072 and 0ccd:0043.  I've actually
> been working with a user on the #linuxtv irc channel who is in the
> process of getting the 0ccd:0072 board to work (username Prahal).
> He's making great progress, but if he gets stuck I will find some
> cycles to work through whatever problem he finds.
>

Just fyi there's a hardware bug with the 0072/terratec hybrid xs fm
(cx25843 - xc5000):

http://img91.imageshack.us/i/00000004qf8.png/
http://img104.imageshack.us/i/00000009cp4.png/

nothing that can be fixed with the driver.

Markus

Re: Info

[Devin Heitmueller]

Hello Markus,

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Markus Rechberger
<mrechberger@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just fyi there's a hardware bug with the 0072/terratec hybrid xs fm
> (cx25843 - xc5000):
>
> http://img91.imageshack.us/i/00000004qf8.png/
> http://img104.imageshack.us/i/00000009cp4.png/
>
> nothing that can be fixed with the driver.

Interesting.  If it cannot be fixed with the driver, how does the
Windows driver work then?  Is this some sort of premature hardware
failure that occurs (after which point it is irreversible)?

Thanks for taking the time to point this out though, since I could
totally imagine banging my head against the wall for quite a while
once I saw this.

Devin

-- 
Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs
http://www.kernellabs.com

Re: Info

[Markus Rechberger]

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Devin Heitmueller
<dheitmueller@kernellabs.com> wrote:
> Hello Markus,
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Markus Rechberger
> <mrechberger@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just fyi there's a hardware bug with the 0072/terratec hybrid xs fm
>> (cx25843 - xc5000):
>>
>> http://img91.imageshack.us/i/00000004qf8.png/
>> http://img104.imageshack.us/i/00000009cp4.png/
>>
>> nothing that can be fixed with the driver.
>
> Interesting.  If it cannot be fixed with the driver, how does the
> Windows driver work then?  Is this some sort of premature hardware
> failure that occurs (after which point it is irreversible)?
>

conexant cx25843 - xceive xc5000 failure (as what I've heard conexant
laid off people in that area years ago while xceive (see their driver
changelog if you have access to it) tried to fix it with their
firmware but didn't succeed), it also happens with windows. Those
screenshots are taken from a videoclip
it was of course a big problem for business customers (almost all of
them happily switched away from it)
This is the same retail hardware as everyone else uses out there. XS
FM is not being sold anymore.
I only know one company in Ireland still sticking with it, also in
terms of videoquality I'd avoid that combination.

Markus

> Thanks for taking the time to point this out though, since I could
> totally imagine banging my head against the wall for quite a while
> once I saw this.
>
> Devin
>
> --
> Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs
> http://www.kernellabs.com
>

Re: Info

[fogna]

Il 01/18/2010 06:33 PM, Markus Rechberger ha scritto:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Devin Heitmueller
> <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hello Markus,
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Markus Rechberger
>> <mrechberger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Just fyi there's a hardware bug with the 0072/terratec hybrid xs fm
>>> (cx25843 - xc5000):
>>>
>>> http://img91.imageshack.us/i/00000004qf8.png/
>>> http://img104.imageshack.us/i/00000009cp4.png/
>>>
>>> nothing that can be fixed with the driver.
>>>       
>> Interesting.  If it cannot be fixed with the driver, how does the
>> Windows driver work then?  Is this some sort of premature hardware
>> failure that occurs (after which point it is irreversible)?
>>
>>     
> conexant cx25843 - xceive xc5000 failure (as what I've heard conexant
> laid off people in that area years ago while xceive (see their driver
> changelog if you have access to it) tried to fix it with their
> firmware but didn't succeed), it also happens with windows. Those
> screenshots are taken from a videoclip
> it was of course a big problem for business customers (almost all of
> them happily switched away from it)
> This is the same retail hardware as everyone else uses out there. XS
> FM is not being sold anymore.
> I only know one company in Ireland still sticking with it, also in
> terms of videoquality I'd avoid that combination.
>
> Markus
>
>   
>> Thanks for taking the time to point this out though, since I could
>> totally imagine banging my head against the wall for quite a while
>> once I saw this.
>>
>> Devin
>>
>> --
>> Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs
>> http://www.kernellabs.com
>>
>>     
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>   
Hi Markus, thanks for the info, i didn't know of this hardware problem,
i have this usb stick and at the moment all works normally, now i know
when it will be time to replace it :)

Re: Info

[Markus Rechberger]

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:50 PM, fogna <fogna80@gmail.com> wrote:
> Il 01/18/2010 06:33 PM, Markus Rechberger ha scritto:
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Devin Heitmueller
>> <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Markus,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Markus Rechberger
>>> <mrechberger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just fyi there's a hardware bug with the 0072/terratec hybrid xs fm
>>>> (cx25843 - xc5000):
>>>>
>>>> http://img91.imageshack.us/i/00000004qf8.png/
>>>> http://img104.imageshack.us/i/00000009cp4.png/
>>>>
>>>> nothing that can be fixed with the driver.
>>>>
>>> Interesting.  If it cannot be fixed with the driver, how does the
>>> Windows driver work then?  Is this some sort of premature hardware
>>> failure that occurs (after which point it is irreversible)?
>>>
>>>
>> conexant cx25843 - xceive xc5000 failure (as what I've heard conexant
>> laid off people in that area years ago while xceive (see their driver
>> changelog if you have access to it) tried to fix it with their
>> firmware but didn't succeed), it also happens with windows. Those
>> screenshots are taken from a videoclip
>> it was of course a big problem for business customers (almost all of
>> them happily switched away from it)
>> This is the same retail hardware as everyone else uses out there. XS
>> FM is not being sold anymore.
>> I only know one company in Ireland still sticking with it, also in
>> terms of videoquality I'd avoid that combination.
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for taking the time to point this out though, since I could
>>> totally imagine banging my head against the wall for quite a while
>>> once I saw this.
>>>
>>> Devin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs
>>> http://www.kernellabs.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
> Hi Markus, thanks for the info, i didn't know of this hardware problem,
> i have this usb stick and at the moment all works normally, now i know
> when it will be time to replace it :)
>

it happens sporadically sometimes 1 time/5 minutes sometimes 1 time/10 minutes.
I think in windows it sometimes drops frames it also happens there and
can be seen with VLC
maybe some codecs also compensate it a little bit. There's no generic
rule about this the xc5000
overdrives the videodecoder (it's not empia related issue actually
moreover conexant/xceive)

Markus

Re: Info

[Devin Heitmueller]

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Florent NOUVELLON
<flonouvellon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Devin,
>
> Did you with Prahal advanced the 0072/terratec hybrid xs fm support in
> linux-dvb driver ?
>
> If you need any kind of help (testing, or whatever) feel free to ask me.
>
> Regards,
> Florent

Hi Florent,

Prahal was making good progress, and I was helping him over irc when I
had time.  But I have not invested any of my own time working on the
driver at this point (as I've been tied up working on other projects).

Devin

-- 
Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs
http://www.kernellabs.com

Re: Info

[Adriano Gigante]

Devin,
can you ask Prahal to keep this mailing list updated with the progress 
of develop?
People from the list could help him in any need.
Thank you.
Adri


On 02/14/2010 06:33 PM, Florent NOUVELLON wrote:
 > > Hi Devin,
 > >
 > > Did you with Prahal advanced the 0072/terratec hybrid xs fm support in
 > > linux-dvb driver ?
 > >
 > > If you need any kind of help (testing, or whatever) feel free to 
ask me.
 > >
 > > Regards,
 > > Florent
 > >

Re: Info

[Adriano Gigante]

Hi Devin,

...do you think we will have our stick (0072/terratec hybrid xs fm) 
working before FIFA World Cup?


Thanks
Adriano


Il 14/02/2010 18:33, Florent NOUVELLON ha scritto:
> Hi Devin,
>
> Did you with Prahal advanced the 0072/terratec hybrid xs fm support in
> linux-dvb driver ?
>
> If you need any kind of help (testing, or whatever) feel free to ask me.
>
> Regards,
> Florent
>
>
> 2010/1/18 Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com
> <mailto:mrechberger@gmail.com>>
>
>     On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:50 PM, fogna <fogna80@gmail.com
>     <mailto:fogna80@gmail.com>> wrote:
>      > Il 01/18/2010 06:33 PM, Markus Rechberger ha scritto:
>      >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Devin Heitmueller
>      >> <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com
>     <mailto:dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>> wrote:
>      >>
>      >>> Hello Markus,
>      >>>
>      >>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Markus Rechberger
>      >>> <mrechberger@gmail.com <mailto:mrechberger@gmail.com>> wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>>> Just fyi there's a hardware bug with the 0072/terratec hybrid
>     xs fm
>      >>>> (cx25843 - xc5000):
>      >>>>
>      >>>> http://img91.imageshack.us/i/00000004qf8.png/
>      >>>> http://img104.imageshack.us/i/00000009cp4.png/
>      >>>>
>      >>>> nothing that can be fixed with the driver.
>      >>>>
>      >>> Interesting.  If it cannot be fixed with the driver, how does the
>      >>> Windows driver work then?  Is this some sort of premature hardware
>      >>> failure that occurs (after which point it is irreversible)?
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >> conexant cx25843 - xceive xc5000 failure (as what I've heard
>     conexant
>      >> laid off people in that area years ago while xceive (see their
>     driver
>      >> changelog if you have access to it) tried to fix it with their
>      >> firmware but didn't succeed), it also happens with windows. Those
>      >> screenshots are taken from a videoclip
>      >> it was of course a big problem for business customers (almost all of
>      >> them happily switched away from it)
>      >> This is the same retail hardware as everyone else uses out there. XS
>      >> FM is not being sold anymore.
>      >> I only know one company in Ireland still

ing with it, also in
>      >> terms of videoquality I'd avoid that combination.
>      >>
>      >> Markus
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>> Thanks for taking the time to point this out though, since I could
>      >>> totally imagine banging my head against the wall for quite a while
>      >>> once I saw this.
>      >>>
>      >>> Devin
>      >>>
>      >>> --
>      >>> Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs
>      >>> http://www.kernellabs.com
>      >>>
>      >>>
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>      >>
>      >>
>      > Hi Markus, thanks for the info, i didn't know of this hardware
>     problem,
>      > i have this usb stick and at the moment all works normally, now i
>     know
>      > when it will be time to replace it :)
>      >
>
>     it happens sporadically sometimes 1 time/5 minutes sometimes 1
>     time/10 minutes.
>     I think in windows it sometimes drops frames it also happens there and
>     can be seen with VLC
>     maybe some codecs also compensate it a little bit. There's no generic
>     rule about this the xc5000
>     overdrives the videodecoder (it's not empia related issue actually
>     moreover conexant/xceive)
>
>     Markus
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