From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from smtp1.infomaniak.ch ([84.16.68.89]:59103 "EHLO smtp1.infomaniak.ch" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755201Ab0CDSdU (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:33:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4B8FFAEC.1060708@deckpoint.ch> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:24:44 +0100 From: Thomas Kernen MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Lundberg CC: hermann pitton , linux-media@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: TBS 6980 Dual DVB-S2 PCIe card References: <1267693537.3190.17.camel@pc07.localdom.local> <8f1895b91003040403q52ed1cf4of72a61977d6cdc36@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8f1895b91003040403q52ed1cf4of72a61977d6cdc36@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 3/4/10 1:03 PM, Per Lundberg wrote: > Hi Hermann, > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM, hermann pitton wrote: > >>> Has anyone done any attempt at contacting TBS to see if they can release their >>> changes under the GPLv2? Ideally, they would provide a patch themselves, but it >>> should be fairly simple to diff the linux/ trees from their provided >>> linux-s2api-tbs6980.tar.bz2 file with the stock Linux 2.6.32 code... in fact, it >>> could be that their patch is so trivial that we could just include it in the >>> stock Linux kernel without asking them for license clarifications... but >>> obviously, if we can get a green sign from them, it would be even better. >> >> It is always the other way round. >> >> In the end they need a green sign from us. > > Well... I guess we are both right. :-) They need to assert ownership > and license the code under the GPL, and we need to ensure that the > quality of the code is high enough (driver is working and does not > interfer with other parts of the code base...). We I asked TBS' support about this question they told me they would like to get it out under GPL as it has been done with other cards they sell but that right now it was not possible due to legal contraints related to some of the code in use by some of the chips on the board. No further details were provided. > >> BTW, the TBS dual seems to be fine on m$, but there are some mysterious >> lockups without any trace, if used in conjunction with some prior >> S2/HDTV cards. I can't tell yet, if that it is evenly distributed over >> amd/ati and nvidia stuff or whatever on win7 ... , but people do spend >> lifetime in vain on it. > > This is pretty interesting, do you have any references? (forum links > or similar) > In my particular case, I was thinking about using it as the "only" S2 > card in the machine, later possibly adding a DVB-C card if/when we get > cable... so, it might not be a problem for me, but it still doesn't > feel really good. I guess the card is pretty new, so maybe (hopefully) > it will get fixed by a new firmware release. > > Do we have any readers of this list who own the card and use it in > Linux (with the drivers from TBS)? Could you please share your > experiences: is the picture quality good? Sound? Does the tuner work > well? (e.g. can you receive all channels you normally receive...) Yes I use the card. Have had it for a couple of months now running in a server that acts as a video head-end in my test network. I only tune to specific transponders when I boot the server so I can't really comment on tuning time and related issues. Yes I've used it for S and S2 feeds and so far it fits my requirements. HTH, Thomas