Which of my 3 video capture devices will work best with my PC?

Which of my 3 video capture devices will work best with my PC?

[Serge Pontejos]

Greetings all...

I'm interested in doing video transfer from VCR to PC and want to know which
of the 3 capture devices I have has the best chance of working with my
setup? I have 3 different symptoms happening with each.

My PC setup:
Ubuntu Karmic 9.10/2.6.31-20 generic
Socket 754 AMD Sempron 3000+ with passive cooling (non AMD64)
Biostar MB with Nforce3 250Gb chipset
NV31 GPU (Geforce FX5600 Ultra 128MB) using Nvidia 196 driver
1GB PC3200 DDR RAM
34GB SCSI coupled to a Adaptec 19160 card
Soundblaster Audigy
dvd+-R floppy etc etc.

The devices in question:

USB: Dazzle Digital Photo Maker, using a USBvision driver recognized as a
Global Village GV-7000)

--This one recognizes and I can display video but if I try to record in
either xawtv or Kdenlive the program crashes.

PCI: Hauppauge WinTV model 38101
--When installed it shows /dev/video0 when I do an ls, but I don't get a
signal with either composite or coax input.   I tried following steps from
this link http://howtoubuntu.org/?p=20 but it didn't change a thing...

PCI: Aurora Systems Fuse previously used on a Mac
--This card picks up the ZR36067 driver, but it's saying it can't initialize
the i2c bus. Thus, no /dev/video* shows

Let me know which I should focus on and then I'll show the query dumps.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.



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Which of my 3 video capture devices will work best with my PC?

[Serge Pontejos]

Greetings all...

I'm interested in doing video transfer from VCR to PC and want to know
which of the 3 capture devices I have has the best chance of working
with my setup? I have 3 different symptoms happening with each.

My PC setup:
Ubuntu Karmic 9.10/2.6.31-20 generic
Socket 754 AMD Sempron 3000+ with passive cooling (non AMD64)
Biostar MB with Nforce3 250Gb chipset
NV31 GPU (Geforce FX5600 Ultra 128MB) using Nvidia 196 driver
1GB PC3200 DDR RAM
34GB SCSI coupled to a Adaptec 19160 card
Soundblaster Audigy
dvd+-R floppy etc etc.

The devices in question:

USB: Dazzle Digital Photo Maker, using a USBvision driver recognized
as a Global Village GV-7000)

--This one recognizes and I can display video but if I try to record
in either xawtv or Kdenlive the program crashes.

PCI: Hauppauge WinTV model 38101
--When installed it shows /dev/video0 when I do an ls, but I don't get
a signal with either composite or coax input.   I tried following
steps from this link http://howtoubuntu.org/?p=20 but it didn't change
a thing...

PCI: Aurora Systems Fuse previously used on a Mac
--This card picks up the ZR36067 driver, but it's saying it can't
initialize the i2c bus. Thus, no /dev/video* shows

Let me know which I should focus on and then I'll show the query dumps.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.



~Serge

Re: Which of my 3 video capture devices will work best with my PC?

[hermann pitton]

Am Mittwoch, den 24.03.2010, 16:45 -0600 schrieb Serge Pontejos:
> Greetings all...
> 
> I'm interested in doing video transfer from VCR to PC and want to know
> which of the 3 capture devices I have has the best chance of working
> with my setup? I have 3 different symptoms happening with each.
> 
> My PC setup:
> Ubuntu Karmic 9.10/2.6.31-20 generic
> Socket 754 AMD Sempron 3000+ with passive cooling (non AMD64)
> Biostar MB with Nforce3 250Gb chipset
> NV31 GPU (Geforce FX5600 Ultra 128MB) using Nvidia 196 driver
> 1GB PC3200 DDR RAM
> 34GB SCSI coupled to a Adaptec 19160 card
> Soundblaster Audigy
> dvd+-R floppy etc etc.
> 
> The devices in question:
> 
> USB: Dazzle Digital Photo Maker, using a USBvision driver recognized
> as a Global Village GV-7000)
> 
> --This one recognizes and I can display video but if I try to record
> in either xawtv or Kdenlive the program crashes.
> 
> PCI: Hauppauge WinTV model 38101
> --When installed it shows /dev/video0 when I do an ls, but I don't get
> a signal with either composite or coax input.   I tried following
> steps from this link http://howtoubuntu.org/?p=20 but it didn't change
> a thing...
> 
> PCI: Aurora Systems Fuse previously used on a Mac
> --This card picks up the ZR36067 driver, but it's saying it can't
> initialize the i2c bus. Thus, no /dev/video* shows
> 
> Let me know which I should focus on and then I'll show the query dumps.

I guess you don't get any dog out of the hut with such offers.

;)

> Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> ~Serge

Re: Which of my 3 video capture devices will work best with my PC?

[Mauro Carvalho Chehab]

>> --This one recognizes and I can display video but if I try to record
>> in either xawtv or Kdenlive the program crashes.

Try to use/adapt this script at v4l-utils git tree(http://git.linuxtv.org/v4l-utils.git)
	contrib/v4l_rec.pl

It basically uses either mencoder or ffmpeg to generate an mpeg encoded stream
from a video analog capture device.

-- 

Cheers,
Mauro

Re: Which of my 3 video capture devices will work best with my PC?

[hermann pitton]

Hi Serge,

Am Donnerstag, den 25.03.2010, 00:06 +0100 schrieb hermann pitton:
> Am Mittwoch, den 24.03.2010, 16:45 -0600 schrieb Serge Pontejos:
> > Greetings all...
> > 
> > I'm interested in doing video transfer from VCR to PC and want to know
> > which of the 3 capture devices I have has the best chance of working
> > with my setup? I have 3 different symptoms happening with each.
> > 
> > My PC setup:
> > Ubuntu Karmic 9.10/2.6.31-20 generic
> > Socket 754 AMD Sempron 3000+ with passive cooling (non AMD64)
> > Biostar MB with Nforce3 250Gb chipset
> > NV31 GPU (Geforce FX5600 Ultra 128MB) using Nvidia 196 driver
> > 1GB PC3200 DDR RAM
> > 34GB SCSI coupled to a Adaptec 19160 card
> > Soundblaster Audigy
> > dvd+-R floppy etc etc.
> > 
> > The devices in question:
> > 
> > USB: Dazzle Digital Photo Maker, using a USBvision driver recognized
> > as a Global Village GV-7000)
> > 
> > --This one recognizes and I can display video but if I try to record
> > in either xawtv or Kdenlive the program crashes.
> > 
> > PCI: Hauppauge WinTV model 38101
> > --When installed it shows /dev/video0 when I do an ls, but I don't get
> > a signal with either composite or coax input.   I tried following
> > steps from this link http://howtoubuntu.org/?p=20 but it didn't change
> > a thing...
> > 
> > PCI: Aurora Systems Fuse previously used on a Mac
> > --This card picks up the ZR36067 driver, but it's saying it can't
> > initialize the i2c bus. Thus, no /dev/video* shows
> > 
> > Let me know which I should focus on and then I'll show the query dumps.
> 
> I guess you don't get any dog out of the hut with such offers.
> 
> ;)

please always provide us with the relevant dmesg output also for cards
with trouble.

Maybe we can fix them or at least others are informed about the issues
too.

The bttv WinTV model 38101 might be just a new revision and maybe the
tuner is just missing in tveeprom?

Old ones.

bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:05:04.0, irq: 18, latency: 66, mmio: 0xf8400000
bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10], PCI subsystem ID is 0070:13eb
bttv0: using: Hauppauge (bt878) [card=10,autodetected]
bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00fffffb [init]
bttv0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5]
tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 38101, rev B410, serial# 1993042
tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Philips FI1236 MK2 (idx 10, type 2)
tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is None (idx 0)
tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio
bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom indicates model#38101

and

bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:05:04.0, irq: 18, latency: 66, mmio: 0xf8400000
bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10], PCI subsystem ID is 0070:13eb
bttv0: using: Hauppauge (bt878) [card=10,autodetected]
bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00fffffb [init]
bttv0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5]
tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 38101, rev B426, serial# 1890608
tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Temic 4036FY5 (idx 26, type 8)
tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is None (idx 0)
tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio
bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom indicates model#38101

Cheers,
Hermann

Re: Which of my 3 video capture devices will work best with my PC?

[hermann pitton]

Am Donnerstag, den 25.03.2010, 16:06 -0600 schrieb Serge Pontejos:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:18 PM, hermann pitton
> <hermann-pitton@arcor.de> wrote:
>         Hi Serge,
>         
>         Am Donnerstag, den 25.03.2010, 00:06 +0100 schrieb hermann
>         pitton:
>         
>         
>         please always provide us with the relevant dmesg output also
>         for cards
>         with trouble.
>         
> I figured I would try to determine if there was a specific card that
> might have a better chance of working first, then focus on that card's
> problem.  But I'll just supply the dmesg with the BT878 installed
> here...
> 
> [   33.150658] Bt87x 0000:02:0a.1: PCI INT A -> Link[APC3] -> GSI 18
> (level, low) -> IRQ 18 
> [   33.150914] bt87x0: Using board 1, analog, digital (rate 32000 Hz) 
> [   33.294887] EMU10K1_Audigy 0000:02:07.0: PCI INT A -> Link[APC4] ->
> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 
> [   33.429554] bttv: driver version 0.9.18 loaded 
> [   33.429559] bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for
> capture 
> [   33.429609] bttv: Bt8xx card found (0). 
> [   33.429629] bttv 0000:02:0a.0: PCI INT A -> Link[APC3] -> GSI 18
> (level, low) -> IRQ 18 
> [   33.429639] bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:02:0a.0, irq: 18,
> latency: 32, mmio: 0xe4000000 
> [   33.429672] bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10], PCI
> subsystem ID is 0070:13eb 
> [   33.429675] bttv0: using: Hauppauge (bt878) [card=10,insmod
> option] 
> [   33.429678] IRQ 18/bttv0: IRQF_DISABLED is not guaranteed on shared
> IRQs 
> [   33.429709] bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00fffffb
> [init] 
> [   33.432194] bttv0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5] 
> [   33.432232] bt878 #0 [sw]: Test OK 
> [   33.475356] tveeprom 3-0050: Hauppauge model 38101, rev B410,
> serial# 1974546 
> [   33.475361] tveeprom 3-0050: tuner model is Philips FI1236 MK2 (idx
> 10, type 2) 
> [   33.475365] tveeprom 3-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08) 
> [   33.475368] tveeprom 3-0050: audio processor is None (idx 0) 
> [   33.475371] tveeprom 3-0050: has no radio 
> [   33.475373] bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom indicates model#38101 
> [   33.475376] bttv0: tuner type=2 
> [   33.640466] bttv0: audio absent, no audio device found! 
> [   33.671316] tuner 3-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (bt878 #0 [sw]) 
> [   33.816641] tuner-simple 3-0061: creating new instance 
> [   33.816648] tuner-simple 3-0061: type set to 2 (Philips NTSC
> (FI1236,FM1236 and compatibles)) 
> [   33.817329] bttv0: registered device video1 
> [   33.817357] bttv0: registered device vbi1 
> [   33.817374] bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 .. ok 
> 
> ...which has similar output to your first dmesg example.... Serial#
> appears to be a little earlier than your example.
>  
>         Maybe we can fix them or at least others are informed about
>         the issues
>         too.
>         
>         The bttv WinTV model 38101 might be just a new revision and
>         maybe the
>         tuner is just missing in tveeprom?
>         
>         Old ones.
>         
>         bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:05:04.0, irq: 18, latency: 66,
>         mmio: 0xf8400000
>         bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10], PCI subsystem ID
>         is 0070:13eb
>         bttv0: using: Hauppauge (bt878) [card=10,autodetected]
>         bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00fffffb [init]
>         bttv0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5]
>         tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 38101, rev B410, serial#
>         1993042
>         tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Philips FI1236 MK2 (idx 10,
>         type 2)
>         tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
>         tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is None (idx 0)
>         tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio
>         bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom indicates model#38101
>         
>         Cheers,
>         Hermann
> 
> This is the xawtv output:
> 
> serge@Bracken:~$ xawtv -noxv -device /dev/video0
> This is xawtv-3.95.dfsg.1, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.31-20-generic)
> xinerama 0: 1680x1050+0+0
> WARNING: No DGA direct video mode for this display.
> WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual
>          configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>")
> v4l2: WARNING: framebuffer base address mismatch
> v4l2: me=(nil) v4l=(nil)
> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
> Warning: Cannot convert string
> "-*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,
> -*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,
> -gnu-unifont-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,
> -efont-biwidth-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,
> -*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-m-*-*-*,
> -*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,
> -*-*-*-*-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*" to type FontSet
> Warning: Cannot convert string
> "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
> Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
> Warning: Cannot convert string
> "-*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,
> -*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-*,
> -gnu-unifont-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,
> -efont-biwidth-bold-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,
> -*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-m-*-*-*,
> -*-*-bold-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-c-*-*-*,
> -*-*-*-*-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*, *" to type FontSet
> ioctl: VIDIOC_QBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0
> [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits="";sequence=0;memory=MMAP): Device or resource busy
> libv4l2: error turning on stream: Device or resource busy
> ioctl: VIDIOC_STREAMON(int=1): Device or resource busy
> ioctl: VIDIOC_QBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0
> [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits="";sequence=0;memory=MMAP): Device or resource busy
> libv4l2: error dequeuing buf: Invalid argument
> ioctl: VIDIOC_DQBUF(index=0;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;bytesused=0;flags=0x0
> [];field=ANY;;timecode.type=0;timecode.flags=0;timecode.frames=0;timecode.seconds=0;timecode.minutes=0;timecode.hours=0;timecode.userbits="";sequence=0;memory=MMAP): Invalid argument
> v4l2: read: Device or resource busy
> serge@Bracken:~$ sudo mplayer -tv
> driver=v4l2:noaudio:width=640:height=480:norm=ntsc :device=/dev/video0
> tv://
> Creating config file: /home/serge/.mplayer/config
> MPlayer SVN-r29237-4.4.1 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
> mplayer: could not connect to socket
> mplayer: No such file or directory
> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
> control.
> 
> Playing :device=/dev/video0.
> File not found: ':device=/dev/video0'
> Failed to open :device=/dev/video0.
> 
> 
> Playing tv://.
> TV file format detected.
> Selected driver: v4l2
>  name: Video 4 Linux 2 input
>  author: Martin Olschewski <olschewski@zpr.uni-koeln.de>
>  comment: first try, more to come ;-)
> Selected device: BT878 video (Hauppauge (bt878))
>  Tuner cap:
>  Tuner rxs: MONO
>  Capabilites:  video capture  video overlay  VBI capture device  tuner
> read/write  streaming
>  supported norms: 0 = NTSC; 1 = NTSC-M; 2 = NTSC-M-JP; 3 = NTSC-M-KR;
> 4 = PAL; 5 = PAL-BG; 6 = PAL-H; 7 = PAL-I; 8 = PAL-DK; 9 = PAL-M; 10 =
> PAL-N; 11 = PAL-Nc; 12 = PAL-60; 13 = SECAM; 14 = SECAM-B; 15 =
> SECAM-G; 16 = SECAM-H; 17 = SECAM-DK; 18 = SECAM-L; 19 = SECAM-Lc;
>  inputs: 0 = Television; 1 = Composite1; 2 = S-Video; 3 = Composite3;
>  Current input: 0
>  Current format: BGR32
> v4l2: current audio mode is : MONO
> v4l2: ioctl queue buffer failed: Device or resource busy
> v4l2: 0 frames successfully processed, 0 frames dropped.
> 
> 
> Exiting... (End of file)
> 
> ====
> 
> mucho thanks...
> 
> Serge

Hi Serge,

thanks, now with copy to the ML. You likely are running a binary driver from nvidia or ati
without support for overlay preview.

For xawtv you would use then -nodga -remote -c /dev/video0 to make sure
you are in grabdisplay/mmap mode and it should work.

/usr/local/bin/mplayer -v tv:// -vf pp=lb -tv
driver=v4l2:input=0:noaudio:width=640:height=480:norm=NTSC-M:device=/dev/video0

Something like that should work too, dunno what blocks /dev/video0 now
for you.

You might try "fuser /dev/video0"

We have examples on the wiki, also for mencoder usage.

For further processing of the recorded material "avidemux2" with GUI is
quite fine.

Hm, I remember some bug, at least on Nvidia, after using mplayer, xawtv
does not get the grabdisplay X overlay back until you logged out once.

It is five years back, but might still be around ...

Cheers,
Hermann