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From: Andreas Oberritter <obi@linuxtv.org>
To: Issa Gorissen <flop.m@usa.net>
Cc: Martin Vidovic <xtronom@gmail.com>,
	Ralph Metzler <rjkm@metzlerbros.de>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Ngene cam device name
Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 11:53:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DC6682C.4060907@linuxtv.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <494PeFsCj8960S01.1304706575@web01.cms.usa.net>

Hello Issa,

On 05/06/2011 08:29 PM, Issa Gorissen wrote:
> From: Andreas Oberritter <obi@linuxtv.org>
>> On 05/06/2011 03:47 PM, Issa Gorissen wrote:
>>> Also, it seems linux en50221 stack provides for the slot selection. So,
> why
>>> would you need two ca nodes ?
>>
>> Because it's the most obvious way to use it. And more importantly
>> because the API sucks, if you have more than one device per node. You
>> can have only one reader, one writer, one poll function per node. For
>> example, you can't use one instance of mplayer to watch one channel with
>> fe0+dmx0+ca0 and a second instance of mplayer to watch or record another
>> channel with fe1+dmx1+ca0. You won't know which device has an event if
>> you use poll. The API even allows mixing multiple CI slots and built-in
>> descramblers in the same node. But try calling CA_RESET on a specific
>> slot or on a descrambler. It won't work. It's broken by design.
> 
> 
> You need to write a userspace soft which will handle the concurrent access of
> your ca device...

... to gain what exactly over using two distinct nodes?

How do you propose solving the problem with CA_RESET with a userspace soft?

> But for your given example, is there any card allowing you to do that (one ci
> slot, two tuners) ?

You don't seem to have understood my example. I was explaining some
drawbacks of having more than one CI slot, but only one node, answering
your prior question.

Besides that, it's highly probable that such a card exists. It wouldn't
make much sense to hardwire CI slots to tuners, if multiple tuners exist
on a board.

Disregarding the term "cards", there are variants of the Dreambox with
1, 2 or 4 CI slots combined with 1 to 4 tuners.

Regards,
Andreas

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-08  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-06 18:29 [PATCH] Ngene cam device name Issa Gorissen
2011-05-08  9:53 ` Andreas Oberritter [this message]
2011-05-08 10:30   ` Issa Gorissen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-05-06 13:47 Issa Gorissen
2011-05-06 16:07 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-05-04 14:51 Issa Gorissen
2011-05-04 14:05 Issa Gorissen
2011-05-04 14:27 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-05-04 11:09 Issa Gorissen
2011-05-04 11:07 Issa Gorissen
2011-05-04 13:51 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-05-04  8:27 Issa Gorissen
2011-05-04  9:59 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-05-04 11:20   ` Ralph Metzler
2011-05-04 12:30     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-05-04 13:15       ` Ralph Metzler
2011-05-04 13:35       ` Martin Vidovic
2011-05-04 14:46         ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-05-05 14:43           ` Martin Vidovic
2011-05-06 12:17             ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-05-06 13:43               ` Walter Van Eetvelt
2011-05-08 10:05               ` Martin Vidovic
2011-05-08 17:58                 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-05-08 23:55                   ` Martin Vidovic
2011-05-09 11:44                     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-04-24 11:38 Issa Gorissen
2011-05-03 23:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-05-04  7:24   ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-12 15:39 Issa Gorissen
2011-03-12 14:34 Issa Gorissen
2011-03-12 14:58 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-28  0:44   ` Ralph Metzler
2011-03-28 21:40     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-04-24  9:31       ` Issa Gorissen
2011-03-28 22:57     ` Oliver Endriss
2011-04-05 21:50       ` Issa Gorissen
2011-03-12 14:10 Issa Gorissen
2011-03-12 14:48 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-12 14:57   ` Martin Vidovic
2011-03-12 15:06     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-11 18:33 Issa Gorissen
2011-03-11 20:39 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-11 21:46   ` Ralph Metzler
2011-03-12 13:25     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-12 13:55       ` Ralph Metzler
2011-03-10 15:29 Issa Gorissen
2011-03-11 15:52 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-11 21:44   ` Martin Vidovic
2011-03-12 13:29     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-12 14:05       ` Ralph Metzler
2011-03-12 14:38         ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-03-12 15:06           ` Ralph Metzler
2011-03-12 23:42       ` Oliver Endriss
2011-03-13 10:47         ` Martin Vidovic
2011-03-16 22:07           ` Issa Gorissen
2011-03-18 20:20             ` Martin Vidovic

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