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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 1/4] V4L: add three new ioctl()s for multi-size videobuffer management
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:02:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DD409CF.4020901@maxwell.research.nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1105181649590.16324@axis700.grange>

Hi,

Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> On Wed, 18 May 2011, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> 
>> On Friday 13 May 2011 09:45:51 Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>>> 2. Both these flags should not be passed with CREATE, but with SUBMIT
>>> (which will be renamed to PREPARE or something similar). It should be
>>> possible to prepare the same buffer with different cacheing attributes
>>> during a running operation. Shall these flags be added to values, taken by
>>> struct v4l2_buffer::flags, since that is the struct, that will be used as
>>> the argument for the new version of the SUBMIT ioctl()?
>>
>> Do you have a use case for per-submit cache handling ?
> 
> This was Sakari's idea, I think, ask him;) But I think, he suggested a 
> case, when not all buffers have to be processed in the user-space. In 
> principle, I can imagine such a case too. E.g., if most of the buffers you 
> pass directly to output / further processing, and only some of them you 
> analyse in software, perhaps, for some WB, exposure, etc.

Yes; I think I mentioned this. It's possible that some rather
CPU-intensive processing is only done on the CPU on every n:th image,
for example. In this case flushing the cache on images that won't be
touched by the CPU is not necessary.

>>>> +
>>>> +/* VIDIOC_CREATE_BUFS */
>>>> +struct v4l2_create_buffers {
>>>> +	__u32			index;		/* output: buffers index...index + count - 1 have 
>> been
>>>> created */ +	__u32			count;
>>>> +	__u32			flags;		/* V4L2_BUFFER_FLAG_* */
>>>> +	enum v4l2_memory        memory;
>>>> +	__u32			size;		/* Explicit size, e.g., for compressed streams */
>>>> +	struct v4l2_format	format;		/* "type" is used always, the rest if 
>> size
>>>> == 0 */ +};
>>>
>>> 1. Care must be taken to keep index <= V4L2_MAX_FRAME
>>
>> Does that requirement still make sense ?
> 
> Don't know, again, not my idea. videobuf2-core still uses it. At one 
> location it seems to be pretty arbitrary, at another it is the size of an 
> array in struct vb2_fileio_data, but maybe we could allocate that one 
> dynamically too. So, do I understand it right, that this would affect our 
> case, if we would CREATE our buffers and then the user would decide to do 
> read() / write() on them?

My issue with this number, as I gave it a little more thought, is that
it is actually quite low. The devices will have more memory in the
future and 32 might become a real limitation. I think it would be wise
to define the API so that the number of simultaneous buffers allocated
on a device is not limited by this number.

Kind regards,

-- 
Sakari Ailus
sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-01  8:12 [PATCH/RFC 0/4] V4L: new ioctl()s to support multi-sized video-buffers Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-01  8:13 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/4] V4L: add three new ioctl()s for multi-size videobuffer management Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-04  7:05   ` Hans Verkuil
2011-04-04  7:38     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-04  8:06       ` Hans Verkuil
2011-04-04  8:23         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-05 12:02         ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 12:40           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-05 12:40           ` Hans Verkuil
2011-04-05 12:53             ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 11:59   ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 12:39     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-05 12:56       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 14:53         ` Sakari Ailus
2011-04-05 12:21   ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 12:34     ` Hans Verkuil
2011-04-05 12:50       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 12:52       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-05 12:58         ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-06 16:19       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-07  7:06         ` Hans Verkuil
2011-04-07  7:15           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-07  7:50             ` Hans Verkuil
2011-04-07  8:53               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-07  9:13                 ` Hans Verkuil
2011-04-07  9:17               ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-07  9:28                 ` Hans Verkuil
2011-04-11 11:27                   ` Sakari Ailus
2011-04-11  8:54   ` Sakari Ailus
2011-05-13  7:45   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-05-14 11:12     ` Hans Verkuil
2011-05-16 13:32     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-05-16 20:34       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-05-17  5:52         ` Sakari Ailus
2011-05-18 14:01           ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-18 14:48             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-05-18 19:58               ` Sakari Ailus
2011-06-06 13:10                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-06-06 17:28                   ` Sakari Ailus
2011-06-07 12:14                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-06-08  9:04                       ` Sakari Ailus
2011-05-22 10:18           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-05-22 12:17             ` Sakari Ailus
2011-05-18 13:59     ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-05-18 15:15       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-05-18 18:02         ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2011-04-01  8:13 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/4] V4L: add videobuf2 helper functions to support multi-size video-buffers Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-01 14:06   ` [PATCH/RFC 2/4 v2] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-03 17:34     ` Pawel Osciak
2011-04-04  7:55       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-05 12:42         ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 12:38     ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 13:01       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-01  8:13 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/4] V4L: soc-camera: add support for new multi-size video-buffer ioctl()s Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-01  8:13 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/4] V4L: sh_mobile_ceu_camera: support multi-size video-buffers Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-03 17:34 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/4] V4L: new ioctl()s to support multi-sized video-buffers Pawel Osciak
2011-04-04  7:15   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-04-05 12:19     ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-04-05 12:48       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski

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