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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Oberritter <obi@linuxtv.org>
Cc: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 PATCH 12/12] Remove audio.h, video.h and osd.h.
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:58:38 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ECE85CE.7040807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ECE8434.5060106@linuxtv.org>

Em 24-11-2011 15:51, Andreas Oberritter escreveu:
> On 24.11.2011 18:44, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 24, 2011 18:08:05 Andreas Oberritter wrote:
>>> Don't break existing Userspace APIs for no reason! It's OK to add the
>>> new API, but - pretty please - don't just blindly remove audio.h and
>>> video.h. They are in use since many years by av7110, out-of-tree drivers
>>> *and more importantly* by applications. Yes, I know, you'd like to see
>>> those out-of-tree drivers merged, but it isn't possible for many
>>> reasons. And even if they were merged, you'd say "Port them and your
>>> apps to V4L". No! That's not an option.
>>
>> I'm not breaking anything. All apps will still work.
>>
>> One option (and it depends on whether people like it or not) is to have
>> audio.h, video.h and osd.h just include av7110.h and add a #warning
>> that these headers need to be replaced by the new av7110.h.
>>
>> And really remove them at some point in the future.
>>
>> But the important thing to realize is that the ABI hasn't changed (unless
>> I made a mistake somewhere).
> 
> So why don't you just leave the headers where they are and add a notice
> about the new V4L API as a comment?
> 
> What you proposed breaks compilation. If you add a warning, it breaks
> compilation for programs compiled with -Werror. Both are regressions.

I don't mind doing it for 3.3 kernel, and add a note at
Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt that the
headers will go away on 3.4. This should give distributions
and app developers enough time to prevent build failures, and
prepare for the upcoming changes.

Regards,
Mauro.

> 
> Regards,
> Andreas
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-24 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-24 13:38 Remove audio and video DVBv5 API Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:38 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 01/12] v4l2: add VIDIOC_(TRY_)DECODER_CMD Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:38   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 02/12] v4l spec: document VIDIOC_(TRY_)DECODER_CMD Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 03/12] ivtv: implement new decoder command ioctls Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 04/12] v4l2-ctrls: add new controls for MPEG decoder devices Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 05/12] Document decoder controls Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 06/12] ivtv: implement new " Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 07/12] cx18/ddbridge: remove unused headers Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 08/12] ivtv: extend ivtv.h with structs and ioctls from dvb/audio.h and video.h Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 09/12] ivtv: use the new ivtv-specific ioctls from ivtv.h Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 10/12] av7110: replace audio.h, video.h and osd.h by av7110.h Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 23:24     ` Oliver Endriss
2011-11-25 15:35     ` Klaus Schmidinger
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 11/12] Replace audio.xml and video.xml with av.xml Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 13:39   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 12/12] Remove audio.h, video.h and osd.h Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 17:08     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-24 17:37       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-24 17:59         ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-24 18:01         ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-24 23:32         ` Oliver Endriss
2011-11-24 17:44       ` Hans Verkuil
2011-11-24 17:51         ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-24 17:58           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2011-11-24 18:07             ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-24 18:25               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-24 18:34                 ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-25  1:09                 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-25  2:44                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-25 12:55                     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-25 15:18                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-25 15:25                         ` Hans Verkuil
2011-11-25 16:00                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-24 18:01         ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-24 18:08           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-24 18:13             ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-24 18:47               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-24 18:51                 ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-24 19:05                 ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-25 12:00                 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-25 13:48                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-25 13:59                     ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-25 14:41                     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-25 15:38                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-25 16:03                         ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-25 16:26                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-25 16:51                             ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-25 22:06                               ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-26  5:55                                 ` Oliver Endriss
2011-11-26  6:25                                   ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-26 11:32                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-26 11:59                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-26 12:46                                       ` Oliver Endriss
2011-11-26 11:49                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2011-11-26 20:27                                     ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-11-27 18:28                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-26 21:58                                     ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-27 19:03                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-27 19:27                                         ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-27 21:39                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-27 22:24                                             ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-27 22:50                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-26 22:11                                     ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-25 15:22                     ` Hans Verkuil
2011-11-25 15:52                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-26 10:44                         ` Hans Verkuil
2011-11-25 15:58                       ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-25 16:03                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-11-25 16:11                           ` Manu Abraham
2011-11-24 23:25     ` Oliver Endriss

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