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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>
Cc: Andreas Oberritter <obi@linuxtv.org>,
	Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] DVB: dvb_frontend: fix delayed thread exit
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:16:02 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EE385C2.6040108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGoCfizdY84dRduX7uLjkBY-RAJ2c74nEnxFOZzU1cD_XKC4Mg@mail.gmail.com>

On 10-12-2011 11:43, Devin Heitmueller wrote:
> Hello Mauro,
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> <mchehab@redhat.com>  wrote:
>> Devin,
>>
>> You're over-reacting. This patch were a reply from Andreas to a thread,
>> and not a separate patch submission.
>>
>> Patches like are generally handled as RFC, especially since it doesn't
>> contain a description.
>
> Any email that starts with "WTF, Devin, you again?" will probably not
> get a very polite response.
>
> I agree there's been some overreaction, but it hasn't been on my part.
>   He took the time to split it onto a new thread, add the subject line
> "PATCH", as well as adding an SOB.  Even if his intent was only to get
> it reviewed, why should I waste half an hour of my time analyzing his
> patch to try to figure out his intent if he isn't willing to simply
> document it?

Both overacted, but this doesn't bring anything good.

> You have a history of blindly accepting such patches without review.

No. I always review all patches I receive. Yeah, I have to confess:
I'm not a robot, I'm not infallible ;) (well, even a robot would
hardly be infallible, anyway).

> My only intent was to flag this patch to ensure that this didn't
> happen here.  I've spent way more time than I should have to fixing
> obscure race conditions in dvb core.  If the author of a patch cannot
> take the time to document his findings to provide context then the
> patch should be rejected without review until he does so.
>
> And why isn't this broken into a patch series?  Even after you
> analyzed the patch you still don't understand what the changes do and
> why there are being made.  Your explanation for why he added the
> "mb()" call was because "Probably Andreas added it because he noticed
> some race condition".  What is the race condition?  Did he find
> multiple race conditions?  Is this patch multiple fixes for a race
> condition and some other crap at the same time?
>
> If a developer wants a patch reviewed (as Andreas suggested was the
> case here after-the-fact), then here's my feedback:  break this into a
> series of small incremental patches which *in detail* describe the
> problem that was found and how each patch addresses the issue.  Once
> we have that, the maintainer can do a more in-depth analysis of
> whether the patch should be accepted.  Code whose function cannot be
> explicitly justified but simply 'looks better' should not be mixed in
> with real functional changes.

I understand that you want patches better documented, so do I, and it
would be great if this patch had a better description since the beginning.

Yet, I don't agree that this patch should be split. It does just one
thing: it fixes the timeout handling for the dvb core frontend thread.

Regards,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-10 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-09 18:20 [PATCH] [media] drxk: Switch the delivery system on FE_SET_PROPERTY Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-09 18:26 ` Antti Palosaari
2011-12-09 18:58   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-09 19:08     ` Antti Palosaari
2011-12-09 22:11       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-09 22:33         ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-12-09 23:37           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-09 23:43             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-10  1:37               ` [PATCH] DVB: dvb_frontend: fix delayed thread exit Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-10  1:59                 ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-12-10  2:06                   ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-10  2:25                     ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-12-10 10:28                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-10 13:43                         ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-12-10 16:16                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2011-12-10 11:12                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-09 19:00   ` [PATCHv2] [media] drxk: Switch the delivery system on FE_SET_PROPERTY Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-09 20:04     ` Eddi De Pieri
2011-12-09 22:04       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-10  4:00     ` Oliver Endriss
2011-12-10 11:18       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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