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From: Sylwester Nawrocki <snjw23@gmail.com>
To: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"HeungJun, Kim" <riverful.kim@samsung.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, mchehab@redhat.com,
	hverkuil@xs4all.nl, kyungmin.park@samsung.com,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Luca Risolia <luca.risolia@studio.unibo.it>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] v4l: Add V4L2_CID_PRESET_WHITE_BALANCE menu control
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:06:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F04CD55.2000500@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F04C394.5050302@iki.fi>

Hi Sakari,

On 01/04/2012 10:24 PM, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>>>> I don't quite understand the purpose of the do_white_balance; the
>>>>> automatic white balance algorithm is operational until it's disabled,
>>>>> and after disabling it the white balance shouldn't change. What is the
>>>>> extra functionality that the do_white_balance control implements?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe DO_WHITE_BALANCE was inspired by some hardware's behaviour, I don't
>>>> know. I have nothing against this control. It allows you to perform
>>>> one-shot white balance in a given moment in time. Simple and clear.
>>>
>>> Well, yes, if you have an automatic white balance algorithm which supports
>>> "one-shot" mode. Typically it's rather a feedback loop. I guess this means
>>> "just run one iteration".
>>>
>>> Something like this should possibly be used to get the white balance
>>> correct by pointing the camera to an object of known colour (white
>>> typically, I think). But this isn't it, at least based on the description
>>> in the spec.
>>
>> Then either the spec is incorrect, or I'm mistaken. My understanding of the
>> DO_WHITE_BALANCE control is exactly what you described.
> 
> This is what the spec says:
> 
> "This is an action control. When set (the value is ignored), the device will do
> a white balance and then hold the current setting. Contrast this with the
> boolean V4L2_CID_AUTO_WHITE_BALANCE, which, when activated, keeps adjusting the
> white balance."
> 
> I wonder if that should be then changed --- or is it just me who got a different
> idea from the above description?

Only you ? :-) Same as Laurent, I understood this control can be used to do white
balance after pointing camera to a white object. Not sure if the description
needs to be changed.

> My understanding is that the operation for getting the white balance information
> from a white object is by far simpler than getting the white balance correct
> without that.
> 
> These seem to be only two references to this control in drivers and both drivers
> are grossly misusing it. On one of them the description is "white balance
> background: blue" and on the other it's "night mode".
> 
> That makes me wonder in what kind of circumstances this control was originally
> introduced. Whatever it was, it seems to have taken place before 16th April in
> 2005. :-)
> 
> I think we could change the description to something more suitable or just
> remove this one...

Why remove it ? It's a useful control. And the abuses at the drivers is different
story.

-- 
Regards,
Sylwester

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-04 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-28  6:23 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add some new camera controls HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-28  6:23 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] v4l: Add V4L2_CID_PRESET_WHITE_BALANCE menu control HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-28 13:35   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-12-28 13:51     ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-29  5:08       ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-29 23:58         ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-30  5:21           ` Kim, Heungjun
2011-12-30 10:30         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-02  4:38           ` Kim, Heungjun
2012-01-02 21:50             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-12-29 23:34       ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-30  6:35         ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-30  8:41           ` Hans de Goede
2011-12-30 18:42             ` 'Sakari Ailus'
2011-12-30 18:56               ` Hans de Goede
2011-12-30 21:03                 ` 'Sakari Ailus'
2011-12-30 18:17           ` 'Sakari Ailus'
2011-12-30 10:14         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-12-30 20:41           ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-01 15:38             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-04 20:39               ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-04 20:57                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-04 21:24                   ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-04 22:06                     ` Sylwester Nawrocki [this message]
2012-01-11 22:36                       ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-13 21:41                         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-12-29  4:06     ` HeungJun, Kim
2012-01-02  9:53     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-12-30 11:23   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-12-28  6:23 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] v4l: Add V4L2_CID_SCENEMODE " HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-28 13:56   ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-29  5:40     ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-30  0:11       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-30  5:31         ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-28  6:23 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] v4l: Add V4L2_CID_WDR button control HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-28 13:56   ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-29  5:52     ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-30  0:13       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-30  5:41         ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-30 21:10   ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-28  6:23 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] v4l: Add V4L2_CID_ANTISHAKE " HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-28 13:58   ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-29  5:57     ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-28 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add some new camera controls Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-29  6:15   ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-30  0:16     ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-30  7:52       ` HeungJun, Kim
2011-12-30 11:18   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-04 21:07     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-28 17:01       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-30 22:25         ` Sakari Ailus

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