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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dacohen@gmail.com, snjw23@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 09/17] v4l: Add pad op for pipeline validation
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:28:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F08D528.3050907@maxwell.research.nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201201061042.38152.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>

Hi Laurent,

Thanks for the review!!

Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 December 2011 21:28:01 Sakari Ailus wrote:
>> From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
>>
>> smiapp_pad_ops.validate_pipeline is intended to validate the full pipeline
>> which is implemented by the driver to which the subdev implementing this op
>> belongs to.
> 
> Should this be documented in Documentation/video4linux/v4l2-framework.txt ?
> 
>> The validate_pipeline op must also call validate_pipeline on any external
>> entity which is linked to its sink pads.
> 
> I'm uncertain about this. Subdev drivers would then have to implement the 
> pipeline walk logic, resulting in duplicate code. Our current situation isn't 
> optimal either: walking the pipeline should be implemented in the media code. 
> Would it suit your needs if the validate_pipeline operation was replaced by a 
> validate_link operation, with a media_pipeline_validate() function in the 
> media core to walk the pipeline and call validate_link in each pad (or maybe 
> each sink pad) ?

Albeit I don't see the pipeline checking a big problem in the subdev
drivers, that does seem like a viable alternative --- it's definitely
more generic. Any benefit of that is directly bound to the existence of
generic pipeline validation function, which definitely shouldn't be too
difficult to write.

It is also true that in practice, I assume, considering the pipeline
validation inside subdev drivers, the SMIA++ driver is almost as complex
any sensor driver will get in the near future. But once a practice has
been established it's difficult to change that.

I'm for validate_link() op.

I assume that in the implementation the Media controller framework would
walk the pipeline and call entity specific link_validate() ops. We
already have link_setup() op there. Those would, in turn, check that the
link requirements are fulfilled. How does that sound like to you?

Regards,

-- 
Sakari Ailus
sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-07 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-20 20:27 [RFC 0/17] V4L2 subdev and sensor control changes, SMIA++ driver and N9 camera board code Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:27 ` [RFC 01/17] v4l: Introduce integer menu controls Sakari Ailus
2012-01-05 15:53   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-06  9:50     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:27 ` [RFC 02/17] v4l: Document " Sakari Ailus
2012-01-05 15:55   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-06 10:07     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:27 ` [RFC 03/17] vivi: Add an integer menu test control Sakari Ailus
2012-01-05 15:59   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-06 10:19     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 10:22       ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 10:28         ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-20 20:27 ` [RFC 04/17] v4l: VIDIOC_SUBDEV_S_SELECTION and VIDIOC_SUBDEV_G_SELECTION IOCTLs Sakari Ailus
2012-01-05 16:12   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-06 11:27     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 12:00       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-07  9:09         ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-07 11:09           ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-07 15:54             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-07 16:53               ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:27 ` [RFC 05/17] v4l: Support s_crop and g_crop through s/g_selection Sakari Ailus
2012-01-05 16:13   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-08 20:54     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:27 ` [RFC 06/17] v4l: Add selections documentation Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 11:43   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-09 18:16     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-10 11:20       ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-14 19:04         ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-15 22:53       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-20 20:27 ` [RFC 07/17] v4l: Add pixelrate to struct v4l2_mbus_framefmt Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 10:26   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-08 21:16     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 08/17] v4l: Image source control class Sakari Ailus
2012-01-05 16:23   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-14 20:51     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-15  1:43       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-15 19:44         ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-15 20:00           ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-15 21:27             ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-15 16:16       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-15 19:30         ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-15 20:08           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 09/17] v4l: Add pad op for pipeline validation Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06  9:42   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-07 23:28     ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2012-01-08 18:20       ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 10/17] omap3: add definition for CONTROL_CAMERA_PHY_CTRL Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 11/17] omap3isp: Implement validate_pipeline Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 12/17] omap3isp: Add lane configuration to platform data Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 10:06   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-07 23:39     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 13/17] omap3isp: Configure CSI-2 phy based on " Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 10:01   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-07 22:51     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-08  1:02       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-08 10:26         ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-08 11:07           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-08 11:16             ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-08 13:09               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-11  8:08                 ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-08 11:15           ` Laurent Pinchart
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 14/17] omap3isp: Use pixelrate from sensor media bus frameformat Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 10:14   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-07 23:05     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 15/17] omap3isp: Move definitions required by board code under include/media Sakari Ailus
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 16/17] smiapp: Add driver Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 17:12   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-07 23:01     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-16 21:57       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2011-12-20 20:28 ` [RFC 17/17] rm680: Add camera init Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 10:21   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-07 21:30     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-01-06 14:58   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-01-07 22:59     ` Sakari Ailus
2011-12-28  9:47 ` [yavta PATCH 1/1] Support integer menus Sakari Ailus
2012-01-05 16:03   ` Laurent Pinchart

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