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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Tomasz Stanislawski <t.stanislaws@samsung.com>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	sumit.semwal@ti.com, jesse.barker@linaro.org, rob@ti.com,
	daniel@ffwll.ch, m.szyprowski@samsung.com,
	kyungmin.park@samsung.com, hverkuil@xs4all.nl,
	laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com, pawel@osciak.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] v4l: add buffer exporting via dmabuf
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:42:45 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F1D8E05.4060109@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F1D8324.5000709@samsung.com>

Em 23-01-2012 13:56, Tomasz Stanislawski escreveu:
> Hi Mauro,
> 
> On 01/23/2012 04:04 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> Em 23-01-2012 12:42, Tomasz Stanislawski escreveu:
>>> Hi Mauro.
>>> On 01/23/2012 03:32 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>>> Em 23-01-2012 11:51, Tomasz Stanislawski escreveu:
>>>>> This patch adds extension to V4L2 api. It allow to export a mmap buffer as file
>>>>> descriptor. New ioctl VIDIOC_EXPBUF is added. It takes a buffer offset used by
>>>>> mmap and return a file descriptor on success.
>>>>
>>>> This requires more discussions.
>>>>
>>>> The usecase for this new API seems to replace the features previously provided
>>>> by the overlay mode. There, not only the buffer were exposed to userspace, but
>>>> some control were provided, in order to control the overlay window.
>>>
>>> This ioctl was introduced to support exporting of V4L2 buffers via dma-buf interface. This framework was little common with overlay mode. Could you describe what overlay mode feature is replaced by VIDIOC_EXPBUF?
>>
>> The V4L2 API doesn't just export "raw" buffers. It provides a logic to control
>> the streams, with includes buffer settings, buffer queue/dequeue, buffer meta-data
>> (like timestamps), etc.
> 
> The DMABUF buffers are handled by vb2-core. It provides control for queuing and passing streaming and metadata management (like timestamps) to the driver.
> 
>>
>> I would expect to see something similar for the dma buffers.
> 
> Those features may be introduced to dma-buf. As I understand queue/dequeue refers to passing 
> ownership between a CPU and a driver. It is handled in vb2-core. Passing buffer between multiple 
> APIs like V4L2 and DRM will be probably handled in the userspace. Currently the dma-buf provides 
> only the mechanism for mapping the same memory by multiple devices.

I'm not sure if the dma-buf itself should have such meta data, but the V4L2 API 
likely needs it.

>>
>> With regards to the overlay mode, this is the old way to export DMA buffers between
>> a video capture driver and a graphics adapter driver. A dma-buf interface will
>> superseed the video overlay mode, as it will provide more features. Yet, care
>> should be taken when writing the userspace interface, in order to be sure that all
>> features needed will be provided there.
>>
> 
> The s5p-tv and s5p-fimc do not have support for OVERLAY mode. As I know vb2-core 
> has no support for the mode, either.

True. It was decided that overlay is an old design, and a dma-buffer
oriented approach would be needed. So, the decision were to not implement
anything there, until a proper dma-buf support were not added.

> What kind of features present in OVERLAYS are 
> needed in dmabuf? Note that dmabuf do not have be used only for buffers with video data.

That's a good point. Basically, Ovelay mode is supported by
those 3 ioctl's:

#define VIDIOC_G_FBUF            _IOR('V', 10, struct v4l2_framebuffer)
#define VIDIOC_S_FBUF            _IOW('V', 11, struct v4l2_framebuffer)
#define VIDIOC_OVERLAY           _IOW('V', 14, int)

With use these structs:

struct v4l2_pix_format {
        __u32                   width;
        __u32                   height;
        __u32                   pixelformat;
        enum v4l2_field         field;
       	__u32                   bytesperline;
        __u32                   sizeimage;
        enum v4l2_colorspace    colorspace;
        __u32                   priv;
};

struct v4l2_framebuffer {
        __u32                   capability;
        __u32                   flags;

        void                    *base;		/* Should be replaced by the DMA buf specifics */
        struct v4l2_pix_format  fmt;
};
/*  Flags for the 'capability' field. Read only */
#define V4L2_FBUF_CAP_EXTERNOVERLAY     0x0001
#define V4L2_FBUF_CAP_CHROMAKEY         0x0002
#define V4L2_FBUF_CAP_LIST_CLIPPING     0x0004
#define V4L2_FBUF_CAP_BITMAP_CLIPPING   0x0008
#define V4L2_FBUF_CAP_LOCAL_ALPHA       0x0010
#define V4L2_FBUF_CAP_GLOBAL_ALPHA      0x0020
#define V4L2_FBUF_CAP_LOCAL_INV_ALPHA   0x0040
#define V4L2_FBUF_CAP_SRC_CHROMAKEY     0x0080
/*  Flags for the 'flags' field. */
#define V4L2_FBUF_FLAG_PRIMARY          0x0001
#define V4L2_FBUF_FLAG_OVERLAY          0x0002
#define V4L2_FBUF_FLAG_CHROMAKEY        0x0004
#define V4L2_FBUF_FLAG_LOCAL_ALPHA	0x0008
#define V4L2_FBUF_FLAG_GLOBAL_ALPHA     0x0010
#define V4L2_FBUF_FLAG_LOCAL_INV_ALPHA  0x0020
#define V4L2_FBUF_FLAG_SRC_CHROMAKEY    0x0040

It should be noticed that devices that support OVERLAY can provide
data on both dma-buffer sharing and via the standard MMAP/read() mode at
the same time, each with a different video format. So, the VIDIOC_S_FBUF
ioctl needs to set the pixel format, and image size for the overlay,
while the other ioctl's set it for the MMAP (or read) mode.

Buffer queue/dequeue happens internally, and can be started/stopped via
a VIDIOC_OVERLAY call.

>>>>
>>>> Please start a separate thread about that, explaining how are you imagining that
>>>> a V4L2 application would use such ioctl.
> 
> I will post a simple application that does buffer sharing between two V4L2 devices (camera and TV output).

Ok.

>>>
>>> This patch is essential for full implementation of support for DMABUF framework in V4L2. Therefore the patch cannot be moved to separate thread.
>>
>> I'm not proposing to move the patch to a separate thread. All I'm saying
>> is that the API extensions for dmabuf requires its own separate discussions.
> 
> I agree. However DMA patches plays important role in this PoC patchset so I decided to keep patches to together. Moreover I wanted this code to compile successfully.
> 
> I prefer to have a good reason for adding extension before proposing it on the mailing list. The DMA buffer sharing seams to be a right reason for adding dma_get_pages but comments for V4L2/Linaro people is needed.
> 
>>
>> I couldn't guess, just from your patches, what ioctl's a V4L2 application
>> like tvtime or xawtv would use the DMABUF.
> 
> DMABUF is dedicated for application that use streaming between at least two devices. 
> Especially if those devices are controlled by different APIs, like DRM and V4L2. 
> It would be probably used in the middle-ware like gstreamer or OpenMAX.

This is what the X11 v4l extension driver does: it shares DMA buffers between V4L2 
and DRM. The extension currently relies on XV extension, simply because this is what
were available at the time the extension was written. I didn't have any time yet
to port it to use something more modern.

It is probably a good idea for you to take a look on it, when writing the API bits.
Its source is available at:

	http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-v4l/

Regards,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-23 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-23 13:51 [PATCH 00/10] Integration of videobuf2 with dmabuf Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 01/10] arm: dma: support for dma_get_pages Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 02/10] [media] media: vb2: remove plane argument from call_memop and cleanup mempriv usage Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 03/10] media: vb2: add prepare/finish callbacks to allocators Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-02-03 15:42   ` Pawel Osciak
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 04/10] v4l: vb2: fixes for DMABUF support Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 14:22   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-23 14:32     ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 14:52       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-23 15:25         ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 16:06           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-23 16:37             ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 16:51               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-25  5:35           ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-25 10:34             ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-25 14:09               ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 05/10] v4l: add buffer exporting via dmabuf Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 14:32   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-23 14:37     ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-23 14:42     ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 15:04       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-23 15:56         ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 16:42           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2012-01-23 16:57             ` V4L2 Overlay mode replacement by dma-buf - was: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-24  0:11               ` Clark, Rob
2012-01-24  9:44             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-24 11:07   ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Subash Patel
2012-01-24 12:06     ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-27 13:40       ` Subash Patel
2012-01-30 14:16         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-26  9:48   ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-02-03 15:47     ` Pawel Osciak
2012-02-03 15:50   ` Pawel Osciak
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 06/10] v4l: vb2: " Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 07/10] v4l: vb2: remove dma-contig allocator Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 14:24   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 08/10] v4l: vb2-dma-contig: code refactoring, support for DMABUF exporting Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 14:26   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-23 14:35     ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 14:43       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-23 14:35   ` [PATCH] media: vb2-memops: Export vb2_get_vma symbol Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-23 14:44     ` Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-03-21 11:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 09/10] v4l: fimc: integrate capture i-face with dmabuf Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 13:51 ` [PATCH 10/10] v4l: s5p-tv: mixer: integrate " Tomasz Stanislawski
2012-01-23 14:37 ` [PATCH 00/10] Integration of videobuf2 " Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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