From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, Kay Sievers <kay@redhat.com>
Cc: Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>,
Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/4] em28xx: Workaround for new udev versions
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 18:07:57 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FEA24AD.6060305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120626204002.GB3885@kroah.com>
Em 26-06-2012 17:40, Greg KH escreveu:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 04:34:21PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> New udev-182 seems to be buggy: even when usermode is enabled, it
>> insists on needing that probe would defer any firmware requests.
>> So, drivers with firmware need to defer probe for the first
>> driver's core request, otherwise an useless penalty of 30 seconds
>> happens, as udev will refuse to load any firmware.
>
> Shouldn't you fix udev, if it really is a problem here? Papering over
> userspace bugs in the kernel isn't usually a good thing to do, as odds
> are, it will hit some other driver sometime, right?
That's my opinion too, but Kay seems to think otherwise. On his opinion,
waiting for firmware during module_init() is something that were never
allowed at the device model.
Regards,
Mauro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-26 21:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-21 13:36 [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-21 14:21 ` Devin Heitmueller
2012-06-21 15:09 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-21 19:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-22 14:11 ` Marko Ristola
2012-06-25 19:15 ` Antti Palosaari
2012-06-25 20:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-25 20:47 ` Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-25 20:49 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-25 22:33 ` Greg KH
2012-06-26 1:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] Defer probe() on em28xx when firmware load is required Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] kmod: add a routine to return if usermode is disabled Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 20:38 ` Greg KH
2012-06-26 21:05 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] em28xx: defer probe() if userspace mode " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 20:43 ` Greg KH
2012-06-26 21:30 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] em28xx: Workaround for new udev versions Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 20:40 ` Greg KH
2012-06-26 21:07 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2012-06-26 21:56 ` Kay Sievers
2012-06-26 20:42 ` Greg KH
2012-06-26 21:21 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 21:27 ` Greg KH
2012-06-26 22:01 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-28 17:51 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 19:34 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] tuner-xc2028: tag the usual firmwares to help dracut Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-26 20:44 ` Greg KH
2012-06-26 21:34 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-02 13:03 ` udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-02 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-02 21:03 ` Ivan Kalvachev
2012-10-02 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 22:15 ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-02 22:12 ` Greg KH
2012-10-02 22:23 ` Greg KH
2012-10-02 22:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 0:01 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-04 14:36 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 15:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-03 16:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 17:09 ` Al Viro
2012-10-03 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 19:26 ` Al Viro
2012-10-04 0:57 ` udev breakages - Nix
2012-10-04 10:35 ` Nix
2012-10-03 19:50 ` udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait() Greg KH
2012-10-03 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 21:04 ` Kay Sievers
2012-10-03 21:05 ` Greg KH
2012-10-03 21:18 ` Kay Sievers
2012-10-03 21:45 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-03 21:58 ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-03 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 22:48 ` Andy Walls
2012-10-03 22:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-04 2:39 ` Kay Sievers
2012-10-04 17:29 ` udev breakages - Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-04 17:42 ` Greg KH
2012-10-04 19:17 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-10 3:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-10 16:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-10-11 3:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-04 13:39 ` udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait() Josh Boyer
2012-10-04 13:58 ` Greg KH
2012-10-03 22:53 ` Stephen Rothwell
2012-10-03 21:10 ` Andy Walls
2012-10-03 19:48 ` Access files from kernel Kirill A. Shutemov
2012-10-03 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <CACVXFVNTZmG+zTQNi9mCn9ynsCjkM084TmHKDcYYggtqLfhqNQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-04 1:42 ` udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait() Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 14:12 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-03 14:36 ` Kay Sievers
2012-10-03 14:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 16:57 ` Greg KH
2012-10-03 17:24 ` Kay Sievers
2012-10-03 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 19:46 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-06-29 8:26 ` Jean Delvare
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