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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org
Cc: Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@samsung.com>,
	Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	Anuj Gupta <anuj20.g@samsung.com>,
	Tushar Gohad <tushar.gohad@intel.com>,
	William Power <william.power@intel.com>,
	Phil Cayton <phil.cayton@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/10] file: add callback for creating long-term dmabuf maps
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 09:14:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c9c9840-944d-4736-a55a-74f5c05b528c@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6cce2f4d-7400-4618-82ce-cbd5004c92a4@gmail.com>

On 4/30/26 20:33, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 4/30/26 07:03, Christian König wrote:
>> On 4/29/26 17:25, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>> Introduce a new file callback that allows creating long-term dma
>>> mapping. All necessary information together with a dmabuf will be passed
>>> in the second argument of type struct io_dmabuf_token, which will be
>>> defined in following patches.
>>
>> Well first of all the naming is probably not the best. Maybe rather call that dma-buf attachment or context or mappping.
> 
> "Mapping" or "attachment" would be confusing as maps are created lazily
> together with struct io_dmabuf_map. I can name it create_dmabuf_ctx(),
> but I decided to use "token" not to collide with dmabuf terminology.
> e.g. I wouldn't be surprised to see some dmabuf ctx in the dmabuf
> implementation code. Maybe "*io_ctx" would be better.

Context or ctx sounds fine to me. IIRC we don't have a context in the DMA-buf subsystem yet.

But we do have the terminology context in other subsystems and components which build on top of DMA-buf similar to this patch set here. So I think that is a pretty good match.

> 
>> Then the patch should probably define the full interface and not just add the callback here and then the structure in a follow up patch.
> 
> I strongly prefer splitting patches so that they touch one tree at
> a time whenever possible.

Exactly that is what you should *not* do and is the background reason why I ask.

Making changes in a core header like include/linux/fs.h to add a new interface and then only later on explaining how that interface works is usually a pretty clear no-go for upstreaming.

Each patch should make one consistent change and upstream maintainers sometimes even require that you give an user for the interface in the same patch.

> tbh, I don't see much of a problem it being
> not defined as it's just forwarded in first patches, but I can shuffle
> it around in the series so that definitions come first.

That is not really a good idea either.

As far as I can see a good organization of the patches would look something like this:

1. The API between higher level and filesystem. Including all the functions, structures, enums etc.. necessary to give everybody reviewing it a solid picture of the general idea.

2. The higher level/frontend/uAPI. Again including all the stuff necessary to get a solid picture.

3. Eventually the glue code between #1 and #2. Depends on if you need it or not to understand those patches individually.

4. The backend implementation, which enables the new feature for a specific fs and/or storage device.

5. Updating Documentation/filesystems/api-summary.rst and eventually adding a new file to explain how the DMA-buf interaction with the fs layer works.

Regards,
Christian.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-04  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-29 15:25 [PATCH v3 00/10] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] file: add callback for creating long-term dmabuf maps Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-30  6:03   ` Christian König
2026-04-30 18:33     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-04  7:14       ` Christian König [this message]
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] iov_iter: add iterator type for " Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] block: move bvec init into __bio_clone Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] block: introduce dma map backed bio type Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] lib: add dmabuf token infrastructure Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] block: forward create_dmabuf_token to drivers Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] nvme-pci: implement dma_token backed requests Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:29   ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 16:07   ` Maurizio Lombardi
2026-04-30 18:18     ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] io_uring/rsrc: introduce buf registration structure Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] io_uring/rsrc: extend buffer update Pavel Begunkov
2026-04-29 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] io_uring/rsrc: add dmabuf backed registered buffers Pavel Begunkov
2026-05-04 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Add dmabuf read/write via io_uring Ming Lei
2026-05-06  9:02   ` Pavel Begunkov

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