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From: Michael Jones <michael.jones@matrix-vision.de>
To: LMML <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@redhat.com>,
	"Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Manu Abraham" <abraham.manu@gmail.com>,
	"David Härdeman" <david@hardeman.nu>,
	"Silvester Nawrocki" <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Guennadi Liakhovetski" <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	"Prabhakar Lad" <prabhakar.lad@ti.com>
Subject: Re: Patches submitted via linux-media ML that are at patchwork.linuxtv.org
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:33:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <502B50AE.5080000@matrix-vision.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1834028.kSBHul9iXV@avalon>

On 08/14/2012 05:21 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Mauro,
>
> On Tuesday 14 August 2012 11:28:05 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> Em 14-08-2012 10:46, Hans Verkuil escreveu:
>> That would work if the others would be doing the same. Unfortunately, other
>> usual developers don't do that: they send all patches under discussions as
>> "PATCH", making really hard to track what's ready for maintainer's review
>> and what isn't. As not-so-frequent contributors (trivial fixes people; users
>> submitting their bug fix patches; first time contributors) send their patch
>> as "PATCH". Those patches aren't typically picked by driver maintainers, so
>> the task of reviewing them is, unfortunately, typically done only by me.
>>
>>> So if I post a [PATCH] as opposed to an [RFC PATCH], then that means that
>>> I believe that the [PATCH] is ready for merging. If I should no longer
>>> do that, but make a pull request instead, then that needs to be stated
>>> very explicitly by you. Otherwise things will get very confusing.
>>
>> Yes, please post them as [RFC PATCH].
>>
>> Maybe the patches that are about to be sent though a pull request could
>> use something like [RFC FINAL] or [PATCH FINAL], but maybe doing that
>> would be just overkill.
>
> I post patches that I believe to be ready to be merged as "[PATCH]", even if I
> plan to push them through my tree later. "RFC" usually has a different
> meaning, I understand it as a work in progress on which comments would be
> appreciated.
>
> As new developers just post patches as "[PATCH]" (probably because that's
> git's default) we can't really change the meaning of that tag. We could ask
> developers who maintain their own git tree to use a different tag (something
> like "[PATCH FOR REVIEW]" for instance), but that won't work well if we need
> to cross-post to other mailing lists that follow a different standard.

As one of the "not-so-frequent" contributors, it's obvious to me why we 
(incorrectly?) use just [PATCH] for initial submissions. Partly because 
it's git's default. Partly because Documentation/SubmittingPatches 
describes this. The LinuxTV Wiki says to [1] ("RFC" is nowhere on this 
page). There are many parts of protocol here that may just be obvious to 
the regulars, but documentation-by-mailing-list is a frustrating and 
error-prone way to have to glean the guidelines before submission. If 
this thread leads to new agreed-upon guidelines, could someone please 
update [1] to reflect whatever the consensus is?  It would be 
appropriate to at least mention 'git send-email' there, too.

-Michael

[1] http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Development:_How_to_submit_patches


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-15  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-14 13:04 Patches submitted via linux-media ML that are at patchwork.linuxtv.org Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-08-14 13:36 ` Prabhakar Lad
2012-08-14 14:02   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-08-14 13:46 ` Hans Verkuil
2012-08-14 14:28   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-08-14 15:21     ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-08-15  7:33       ` Michael Jones [this message]
2012-08-15 19:24         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-08-15  9:54     ` Hans Verkuil
2012-08-15 10:13       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-08-15 19:34       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-08-14 15:10 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-08-14 15:18   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-08-14 15:16 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-08-15 21:43   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-08-14 16:37 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-08-14 22:06   ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-08-15 16:13     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-08-15 21:09       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-08-17 21:01         ` DRM/V4L2 buffer sharing (was: Re: Patches submitted via linux-media ML that are at patchwork.linuxtv.org) Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-08-17 22:03           ` DRM/V4L2 buffer sharing Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-08-17 22:54             ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-08-15  8:30 ` Patches submitted via linux-media ML that are at patchwork.linuxtv.org Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-08-15 23:46 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-08-16 10:38   ` Prabhakar Lad

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