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From: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/15] drivers: phy: add generic PHY framework
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 08:45:29 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51EA00D1.7080402@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51E96135.9090108@wwwdotorg.org>

Hi,

On Friday 19 July 2013 09:24 PM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 07/19/2013 12:36 AM, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Friday 19 July 2013 11:59 AM, Greg KH wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:25:44AM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Friday 19 July 2013 11:13 AM, Greg KH wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:07:10AM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> +	ret = dev_set_name(&phy->dev, "%s.%d", dev_name(dev), id);
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your naming is odd, no "phy" anywhere in it?  You rely on the sender to
>>>>>>>>> never send a duplicate name.id pair?  Why not create your own ids based
>>>>>>>>> on the number of phys in the system, like almost all other classes and
>>>>>>>>> subsystems do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hmm.. some PHY drivers use the id they provide to perform some of their
>>>>>>>> internal operation as in [1] (This is used only if a single PHY provider
>>>>>>>> implements multiple PHYS). Probably I'll add an option like PLATFORM_DEVID_AUTO
>>>>>>>> to give the PHY drivers an option to use auto id.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] ->
>>>>>>>> http://archive.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/message/20130628.134308.4a8f7668.ca.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, who cares about the id?  No one outside of the phy core ever should,
>>>>>>> because you pass back the only pointer that they really do care about,
>>>>>>> if they need to do anything with the device.  Use that, and then you can
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hmm.. ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rip out all of the "search for a phy by a string" logic, as that's not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually this is needed for non-dt boot case. In the case of dt boot, we use a
>>>>>> phandle by which the controller can get a reference to the phy. But in the case
>>>>>> of non-dt boot, the controller can get a reference to the phy only by label.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand.  They registered the phy, and got back a pointer to
>>>>> it.  Why can't they save it in their local structure to use it again
>>>>> later if needed?  They should never have to "ask" for the device, as the
>>>>
>>>> One is a *PHY provider* driver which is a driver for some PHY device. This will
>>>> use phy_create to create the phy.
>>>> The other is a *PHY consumer* driver which might be any controller driver (can
>>>> be USB/SATA/PCIE). The PHY consumer will use phy_get to get a reference to the
>>>> phy (by *phandle* in the case of dt boot and *label* in the case of non-dt boot).
>>>>> device id might be unknown if there are multiple devices in the system.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you on the device id part. That need not be known to the PHY driver.
>>>
>>> How does a consumer know which "label" to use in a non-dt system if
>>> there are multiple PHYs in the system?
>>
>> That should be passed using platform data.
>
> I don't think that's right. That's just like passing clock names in
> platform data, which I believe is frowned upon.
>
> Instead, why not take the approach that e.g. regulators have taken? Each
> driver defines the names of the objects that it requires. There is a
> table (registered by a board file) that has lookup key (device name,

We were using a similar approach with USB PHY layer but things started 
breaking after the device names are created using PLATFORM_DEVID_AUTO. 
Now theres no way to reliably know the device names in advance.
Btw I had such device name binding in my v3 of this patch series [1] and 
had some discussion with Grant during that time [2].

[1] -> 
http://archive.arm.linux.org.uk/lurker/message/20130320.091200.721a6fb5.hu.html
[2] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/22/26

Thanks
Kishon

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-20  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-18  6:46 [PATCH 00/15] PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 01/15] drivers: phy: add generic " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:20   ` Greg KH
2013-07-18  8:59     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18 15:49       ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  5:37         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19  5:43           ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  5:55             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19  6:29               ` Greg KH
2013-07-19  6:36                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-19 15:54                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-20  3:15                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I [this message]
2013-07-19 23:50                   ` Greg KH
2013-07-20  3:19                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-20 22:00                       ` Greg KH
2013-07-21  2:32                         ` Alan Stern
2013-07-21  2:59                           ` Greg KH
2013-07-21 10:22                             ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-21 15:48                               ` Greg KH
2013-07-21 17:14                                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-07-21 19:22                                   ` Alan Stern
2013-07-22  7:25                                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-22 14:44                                       ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23  5:47                                         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-23  7:29                                         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23  7:55                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 14:37                                             ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 14:50                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 15:18                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-23 16:18                                                 ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 16:28                                                   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-23 16:35                                                     ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 16:50                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 17:37                                                     ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 17:44                                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 18:01                                                         ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 19:31                                                           ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 19:44                                                             ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 20:07                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 20:50                                                                 ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 21:05                                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 21:23                                                                     ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 23:48                                                               ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 17:48                                                       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 18:04                                                         ` Greg KH
2013-07-23 20:46                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 19:36                                                     ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 20:20                                                       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 20:53                                                         ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 21:02                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 21:14                                                             ` Alan Stern
2013-07-23 21:31                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-24 18:32                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                                                   ` <51F0B373.5050907@ti.com>
2013-07-25  7:54                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-07-25  9:29                                                                   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-07-25  9:29                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-07-25 10:16                                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-07-25 11:00                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-07-25 11:10                                                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-07-25 12:09                                                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-07-23 17:34                                               ` Mark Brown
2013-07-22 15:04                                       ` Greg KH
2013-07-23  5:34                                         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-21 10:31                             ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-21 11:07                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-21 11:12                                 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-21 15:46                                   ` Greg KH
2013-07-30  7:11                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-31  5:44                                       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-31  6:15                                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-08-13 10:44                                           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-13 11:37                                             ` Tomasz Figa
2013-08-13 12:05                                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-13 22:19                                                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-13 23:04                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-08-14 15:05                                                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-19  5:28                                                       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-08-20 12:26                                                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 02/15] usb: phy: omap-usb2: use the new " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:21   ` Greg KH
2013-07-18  9:00     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 03/15] usb: phy: twl4030: " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 04/15] ARM: OMAP: USB: Add phy binding information Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:02   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 05/15] ARM: dts: omap: update usb_otg_hs data Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  7:05   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 06/15] usb: musb: omap2430: use the new generic PHY framework Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 07/15] usb: phy: omap-usb2: remove *set_suspend* callback from omap-usb2 Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 08/15] usb: phy: twl4030-usb: remove *set_suspend* and *phy_init* ops Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 09/15] phy: Add driver for Exynos MIPI CSIS/DSIM DPHYs Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 10/15] video: exynos_mipi_dsim: Use the generic PHY driver Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 11/15] exynos4-is: Use the generic MIPI CSIS " Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 12/15] ARM: Samsung: Remove the MIPI PHY setup code Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 13/15] phy: Add driver for Exynos DP PHY Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 14/15] video: exynos_dp: remove non-DT support for Exynos Display Port Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-07-18  6:46 ` [PATCH 15/15] video: exynos_dp: Use the generic PHY driver Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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