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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
To: "media-workshop@linuxtv.org" <media-workshop@linuxtv.org>
Cc: "linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Agenda for the Edinburgh mini-summit
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 08:43:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52219093.7080409@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201308301501.25164.hverkuil@xs4all.nl>



On 08/30/2013 03:01 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> OK, I know, we don't even know yet when the mini-summit will be held but I thought
> I'd just start this thread to collect input for the agenda.
> 
> I have these topics (and I *know* that I am forgetting a few):
> 
> - Discuss ideas/use-cases for a property-based API. An initial discussion
>   appeared in this thread:
> 
>   http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/65195
> 
> - What is needed to share i2c video transmitters between drm and v4l? Hopefully
>   we will know more after the upcoming LPC.
> 
> - Decide on how v4l2 support libraries should be organized. There is code for
>   handling raw-to-sliced VBI decoding, ALSA looping, finding associated
>   video/alsa nodes and for TV frequency tables. We should decide how that should
>   be organized into libraries and how they should be documented. The first two
>   aren't libraries at the moment, but I think they should be. The last two are
>   libraries but they aren't installed. Some work is also being done on an improved
>   version of the 'associating nodes' library that uses the MC if available.
> 
> - Define the interaction between selection API, ENUM_FRAMESIZES and S_FMT. See
>   this thread for all the nasty details:
> 
>   http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg65137.html
> 
> Feel free to add suggestions to this list.

I got another one:

VIDIOC_TRY_FMT shouldn't return -EINVAL when an unsupported pixelformat is provided,
but in practice video capture board tend to do that, while webcam drivers tend to map
it silently to a valid pixelformat. Some applications rely on the -EINVAL error code.

We need to decide how to adjust the spec. I propose to just say that some drivers
will map it silently and others will return -EINVAL and that you don't know what a
driver will do. Also specify that an unsupported pixelformat is the only reason why
TRY_FMT might return -EINVAL.

Alternatively we might want to specify explicitly that EINVAL should be returned for
video capture devices (i.e. devices supporting S_STD or S_DV_TIMINGS) and 0 for all
others.

Regards,

	Hans

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-31  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-30 13:01 Agenda for the Edinburgh mini-summit Hans Verkuil
2013-08-30 13:21 ` Oliver Schinagl
2013-08-30 13:31   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-08-30 16:54     ` [media-workshop] " Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]       ` <CACHYQ-qyuP+MjWNc7bVHhUa0xxzQHEmb3JFe+9n6C0GzOnj54A@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-31  0:03         ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]           ` <CACHYQ-qDD5S5FJvzT-oUBe+Y+S=CB_ZN+QNQPpu+BFE-ZPr45g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-31 20:19             ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]               ` <CA+M3ks7whrGtkboVcstoEQBRTkiLGF7Hf9nEsYEkyUD6=QPG9w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-04 10:48                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2013-09-05 11:37                   ` Hugues FRUCHET
2013-09-06 13:45                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-07  9:31                       ` Pawel Osciak
2013-09-10  9:44                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-09 10:32                     ` Hans Verkuil
2013-09-10  7:36                       ` Hugues FRUCHET
2013-09-10  7:54                         ` Hans Verkuil
2013-08-30 13:54   ` Hans Verkuil
2013-08-31  6:43 ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2013-08-31 18:38   ` [media-workshop] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-08-31 20:25     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-31 20:36       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2013-09-01 11:13         ` Hans Verkuil
2013-08-31 14:40 ` Sakari Ailus

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